HalfTimePost Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Seriously undervalued is our Brad. Which is great for us. In his current form and that of last season he could stand up to the likes of Begovic and Mignolet, who are both very good keepers too, very well. His biggest sticking point for me is his distribution, the team will often have it in a great attacking area, pass it around all the way back to the defence keeping possession well (this is where we need a great AM who has that bit of magic*) and then the defence knocks it about a bit, cant push it forwards, panics and gives it to Guzan who then lumps it forwards and we lose possession. It happens a lot and it's been happening for a while now. It's not particularly Guzans fault but his kicking isn't great so it makes it worse. But anyway, back to Guzan, seriously undervalued. The more under valued players we get the better. Lowton and Westwood the others. *At the minute if we dont break on the counter, we pass it round like described above and try and work it to Lowton making a late run and rely on him to create the killer ball. It's great that he can do it, but when he cant find it we have absolutely nothing in terms of creativity. An effective, creative AM would probably alleviate this entire issue for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysAVFC Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 My guess is that Luna expected Guzan come for it, then Guzan saw what Luna expected meaning he was a bit slow out. So just my opinion without being there but was probably Luna's error. Doesn't need much communication if Guzan shouts KEEPERS (or similar) its his, if he doesn't deal with it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I adore Guzan, he's an absolutely brilliant player and I'm so glad we have him. I can literally only remember one howler he has ever made in the time I've been watching him, and it didn't lead to a goal. Thankfully nobody seems to be trying to buy him, because I think we'd REALLY miss him if he went. He used to make quite a few howlers. His weak point used to be crosses and set pieces. We conceded many goals in cup games, years ago, due to that weakness in his game. Luckily, he's worked and worked on that, and now seems a much better keeper because of it! I love him. He seems to really like the club too. I hope he's our GK well into his 30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Truly great save from Cazorla on the weekend. Good stop from Rosicky too when he weaved his way through. just as important as the 2 penalties I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stevo985 Posted August 19, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 19, 2013 What a keeper, imagine him behind the 09/10 defence, we'd have conceded 5 goals that season. Loved his celebrations at the end aswell, proper villa keeper. Probably my one criticism of him is he's a better slow off his line at anticipating danger. Not at crosses but today in the first half Luna was desperate for him to come out and claim the ball with Walcott behind him, Brad belately did but lost it and we managed to scramble it away so would like his position to be on the 6 yard box rather than routed on the goalline especially as I imagine when Okore is eventually in the team we'll continue playing a high line. That was Luna's fault, not Guzan's. Can't fault Brad on that one, not when it was Walcott chasing Luna, given his speed. The issue was that Brad was likely unsure if he'd get there before Walcott or not, and was relying on Luna to put it out of play Remember to Luna doesn't speak English yet. Can probably put that incident down to a communication failure. I doubt it. In that situation Guzan would be shouting two things either "KEEPER'S" or "AWAY" (or something similar). And probably the first thing a keeper would tell his defence are those two things. So Spanish or no Spanish, Luna should be aware (and Guzan should have made it him aware) of what Guzan would shout in that situation. I'm not saying it was Guzan's fault. Quite the opposite, as a fellow keeper I sympathise with him. In those situations a lot of times you (the keeper) would shout "AWAY", and the defender decides otherwise and you end up getting stick for it even though you'd already made your decision. Ok that decision may have been wrong in a perfect world, but if Luna smacks it out of play straight away then nobody would have noticed. Anyway, it's a minor point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaonsea Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I think his distribution has improved during preseason. He has added quick throwing to his arsenal. Also his Drop kicking is impressive. He always fires it into an area where we can contest a 50-50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 19, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 19, 2013 I adore Guzan, he's an absolutely brilliant player and I'm so glad we have him. I can literally only remember one howler he has ever made in the time I've been watching him, and it didn't lead to a goal. Thankfully nobody seems to be trying to buy him, because I think we'd REALLY miss him if he went. He used to make quite a few howlers. I'm not sure he did. I just think that one game against blackburn tainted his reputation amongst us. I was at fault for thinking the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 What a keeper, imagine him behind the 09/10 defence, we'd have conceded 5 goals that season. Loved his celebrations at the end aswell, proper villa keeper. Probably my one criticism of him is he's a better slow off his line at anticipating danger. Not at crosses but today in the first half Luna was desperate for him to come out and claim the ball with Walcott behind him, Brad belately did but lost it and we managed to scramble it away so would like his position to be on the 6 yard box rather than routed on the goalline especially as I imagine when Okore is eventually in the team we'll continue playing a high line. That was Luna's fault, not Guzan's. Can't fault Brad on that one, not when it was Walcott chasing Luna, given his speed. The issue was that Brad was likely unsure if he'd get there before Walcott or not, and was relying on Luna to put it out of play Remember to Luna doesn't speak English yet. Can probably put that incident down to a communication failure. I doubt it. In that situation Guzan would be shouting two things either "KEEPER'S" or "AWAY" (or something similar). And probably the first thing a keeper would tell his defence are those two things. So Spanish or no Spanish, Luna should be aware (and Guzan should have made it him aware) of what Guzan would shout in that situation. I'm not saying it was Guzan's fault. Quite the opposite, as a fellow keeper I sympathise with him. In those situations a lot of times you (the keeper) would shout "AWAY", and the defender decides otherwise and you end up getting stick for it even though you'd already made your decision. Ok that decision may have been wrong in a perfect world, but if Luna smacks it out of play straight away then nobody would have noticed. Anyway, it's a minor point I think Guzan was at fault, I was sitting just behind the goal and don't speak a word of spanish and knew full well that luna wanted Brad to come and take it, he hesitated for a few seconds and then what happened happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 19, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 19, 2013 It doesn't matter what Luna wants Guzan to do to be quite honest. Guzan's made his decision. Do what he wants and argue after it. If defenders start second guessing goalkeepers to do what they think is right then you're asking for trouble. Most likely they're both at fault. Guzan should have come for it originally, Luna should have cleared when (if) he got a shout to. Debate it afterwards, deal with it first. If Guzan's made his decision to not come for it then it has to be dealt with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Getting much better game by game for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted August 19, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) quite literally put his balls on the line with the Rosicky save, in fact smaller tackle and he may have got nutmegged. Edited August 19, 2013 by romavillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo82 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 On his way to being a Villa legend between the sticks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Anyone notice after we scored the 3rd and the camera panned to guzan walking back towards his goal with a smirk on his face as the fans were going mental, he mouths something which looks to me like hes saying "**** love it" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 29 today. Happy birthday big man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 He's worked damned hard to get the spot. I remember thinking, and voicing, that he'd never make a Prem keeper. Got that one wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Happy birthday Brad, king of men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Still say it to this day, if Guzan had played in the semi-final against Bradford we would have been at Wembley. People can say it's harsh on Given but we needed a keeper who actually came off the line to come for crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Happy Birthday Brad! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chZBLY6vAF8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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