Phumfeinz Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 13, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 13, 2016 2 hours ago, dAVe80 said: Not an album, but here's as good as anywhere to put it... Don Letts on 6Music - Skinhead Moonstomp! Nothing too obscure, just wall to wall Skinhead classics. Heads up for a film by Don Letts about Skinheads, on BBC4 tomorrow night too. I'm not buying it. Sure, 60s skins weren't all Nazis - that would have involved SOME degree of political thought. But every single one I encountered was a **** ing thug. The fashions were ugly, the music was - well, no better than OK in small doses (to my admittedly prog rock nurtured grammar schoolboy ears). Not the thing to say these days, I know. But I cannot see THAT look without a shudder of revulsion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) Good words mooney. Cannot stick that culture, although due to unforeseen circumstances I am now one of them, a baldie that is the beard is coming on great though, so maybe if I put my head on upside down. Edited October 13, 2016 by Rugeley Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 It's been a while since I was a 13 year old that lapped up everything Nu-Metal, but this album sticks with me as it was always their most mature sounding album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I hate nu-metal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 @rjw63 I'm looking forward to seeing one or two grateful dead albums appear, and your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: I'm not buying it. Sure, 60s skins weren't all Nazis - that would have involved SOME degree of political thought. But every single one I encountered was a **** ing thug. The fashions were ugly, the music was - well, no better than OK in small doses (to my admittedly prog rock nurtured grammar schoolboy ears). Not the thing to say these days, I know. But I cannot see THAT look without a shudder of revulsion. I wasn't around at the time, but love the music and fashion. You were, and I respect your opinion, and wouldn't argue with your views. Don Letts was, so were quite a few people I know and respect, and they tell a different story. The look was borrowed from Jamaica, so it belonged to them first. The music was enjoyed by white and black kids. From my personal experience of the subculture, I've experienced very little racism, but then again I wouldn't entertain it anyway. I'm looking forward to watching the documentary tomorrow night (well probably Saturday afternoon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: I'm not buying it. Sure, 60s skins weren't all Nazis - that would have involved SOME degree of political thought. But every single one I encountered was a **** ing thug. The fashions were ugly, the music was - well, no better than OK in small doses (to my admittedly prog rock nurtured grammar schoolboy ears). Not the thing to say these days, I know. But I cannot see THAT look without a shudder of revulsion. I guess it's one of those things where people have to agree to disagree. It can be a bit of a mixed bag. I quite liked it, the late 70's version mixed in with a bit of suedehead and mod and soul was a beautiful thing. Lovely community. Opened my eyes and ears to a really multicultural world. Admittedly 18 minute long songs about faery quests to wizard land written on a gap year on Lord Montagu de Plaunq's estate were a bit thin on the ground, but we got by. But yeah, being serious, each to their own, music is music and all that. I've seen a couple of Don Letts sets, he's very good, very informed and very listenable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 11 hours ago, Rugeley Villa said: @rjw63 I'm looking forward to seeing one or two grateful dead albums appear, and your thoughts. Not got one yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 14, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 14, 2016 As for the second wave of skinhead culture, in 1982 (two weeks before my wedding) I was the victim of a totally unprovoked attack by half a dozen skins that required months of dental surgery on my smashed teeth. So you can perhaps understand my distaste for that sub 'culture'. As I say, the reggae is OK in very small doses once in a while (I even own a Dennis Bovell album!), but it gets very boring very quckly to these ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mjmooney said: As for the second wave of skinhead culture, in 1982 (two weeks before my wedding) I was the victim of a totally unprovoked attack by half a dozen skins that required months of dental surgery on my smashed teeth. So you can perhaps understand my distaste for that sub 'culture'. As I say, the reggae is OK in very small doses once in a while (I even own a Dennis Bovell album!), but it gets very boring very quckly to these ears. yeah I got clobbered by a gang of skinheads when I was 10 or 11, never liked the words removed since. Edited October 14, 2016 by rjw63 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I say you both provoked them with your hippy hair. In all seriousness, I can fully understand you not liking them. Like anything though (and I'm about to get all right-on here), you can't judge everyone by the actions of a few. I'm not a violent person, and I've never gone looking for a fight in my life. I just like Ben Sherman shirts, and jumping about to Prince Buster records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted October 14, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 14, 2016 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Those pesky Swedish Djent monsters, Meshuggah, have delivered another gem, packed full of future karaoke favourites (or maybe not) Bostin' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Black sabbath got attacked by skinheads, but I'm glad they did because we wouldn't have the song fairies wear boots otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 5 hours ago, rjw63 said: Not got one yet Your slacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Everyone had this on cassette back in the day, absolute classic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted October 15, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2016 Just popped 'The Suburbs' by Arcade Fire on this morning while doing some bits around the house, still a fantastic album. If you've not heard it, it's worth a listen. Going to whack 'High Violet' by The National on afterwards... one of my fave albums of the last ten years, genuinely think it's a masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogso Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Devastating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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