Danwichmann Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I actually find all this reaction very funny! I thought everyone realised this was going to be very much a season of transition? Yes, things aren't good right now, but anyone can see GH is looking to change things, it will take time! He hasn't even had a transfer window yet, he's hardly likely to have the team playing quite how he wants. And to those who think he should have the team playing how MON did, no manager worth having will come in and simply try to imitate the man he's replaced! He has to put his own mark on the team, whether or not that works quickly or takes time. And as for his comments after the game, I really couldn't care less. I don't care if the manager likes or respects the fans. I don't respect the Villa fans! I think they're a bunch of whining tits on the whole. all that matters is if he is a good manager or not and he hasn't even come close to having the chance to prove that or not at Villa. Honestly, who can blame him for for being warmer to Liverpool fans who still like and respect him years after he's gone than he is to Villa fans who want him out before he's finished clearing out all of MONs unread scouting reports from his office! We're the fans who will be here longer than Houllier or any other manager so we deserve respect. Well go on Liverpool sites and see what they thought of him when he was manager a deluded old man. Give it a few years and they'll love Benitez too, but you know what we are paying customers, we deserve respect, I paid £80 for 2 tickets, sitting in a shit stand, in the cold. In return we got a shit performance, but that's by the by, you take the risk in that however the 1500 of us who went deserved some gratitude of travelling up to Anfield to support our club and outsinging Liverpool, i was told by Liverpool the atmosphere on night games is something else, well the only fans i seen supporting their club was us and that was at 3-0 down. Then our manager is seen walking over to the Kop applauding them but totally ignoring us. A total lack of respect for me. If we had won the game, no way would they have been applauding that fool. Yes, we'll be here longer. Don't know what that means we deserve respect? The Royal Family have been around a hell of a long time, I have 0 respect for them. Ditto the Conservative Party, Millwall fans, criminal and scousers. Fair enough, if you feel strongly that how the manager behaves towards the fans is important then you have good grounds for wanting GH out. I don't care about it. I'd rather have a manager here for a few years, build up a real relationship with the fans and give them respect in the media or at an away game because of a genuine relationship he has with the fans, not just because it's something that's expected. MON (who I was a fan of) always clapped the fans after away games and waved when urged by the Holte, but the way he left suggests he didn't have much genuine respect. That's what matters (if anything), not a silly wave at the end of the game. Look it's a small gesture, would it really have hurt him to just appreciate the support? He is an arrogant deluded old man for me who thinks he's bigger than this club. You said it yourself, it's a small gesture. No, it wouldn't hurt him to do it and he'd be doing himself a favour by doing it as much as anything. But I'm not going to get wound up about a small gesture, because it's just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maradona10 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Yes a small gesture which would have saved the General, the Club all this grief. I could understand your point IF he had simply walked off the pitch but it turned into an issue as soon as he started waving at the Liverpool fans and then thanked them after. What about the Villa fans? Are we not worthy of any gratitude, spending money, travelling, taking time out on a 'WORK' day to get to a game on Sky, we did it for the love of our club. If Houllier wants to manage AVFC, then he has to manage the fans, it's part and parcel of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAndLoyal Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 This isn't JUST about him not waving at the fans. So please don't try and claim this whole storm is over a "small gesture". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heystally! Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I voted no. I wanted him to succeed. But last night, combined with the last few performances, did it for me. It's not even the whole "he loves Liverpool more than Villa" stuff. It's not even results. It's performances. Last night was so so tragic. We never played as badly as last night under Martin O'Neill. So whilst O'Neill may have had his flaws, Houllier is not the solution to our problems, which are now seriously mounting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_avfc Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 We dont want him, wont accept him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderstudy Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I just want us to get out of this, and I'm not bothered who it is getting us out of it. In fact I wish this season was over now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 wish people would stop randomly saying "we". speak for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainer Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Never liked him and never will, time for him to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villadude Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Slept on it, and been mulling it over all day at work, I still want him out, **** shite manager that's lost the plot and know how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAndLoyal Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 wish people would stop randomly saying "we". speak for yourself. The strength of feeling warrants the use of the word "we" quite clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I haven't disliked a manager this much since DOL and even then it took 2 years for me to start disliking him. The appointment didn't feel great from the start and he's been lucky that injuries offer him an excuse for the shit he's served up. If he's meant to be the one to take us forward then surely the least we can expect is to have a bit of confidence and fighting spirit installed into the players. We look a shambles all over, if we score first we'll collapse and if we concede first we'll roll over and die. This bloke is meant to improve on what MON did? Do me a favour, without the ability to actually get players playing for you he's not going to do shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquaddieVilla Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I don't rate him, he seems to lack any passion, lets get Holloway in, then watch us zoom up the table, Randy you have made a mistake, accept it and sack him before it is to late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 wish people would stop randomly saying "we". speak for yourself. The strength of feeling warrants the use of the word "we" quite clearly. no it doesn't. at the least qualify your answers with more specific groupings like " a vocal number" etc, don't include me and others in your generalisations if that houllier poll gets to 99% No then knock yourself out, but from fans I've spoken to in the real world, no-one's calling for him to go yet, we're all just a bit miffed with results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 anyone hear talksport earlier? they ahd the whole subject up about the way houllier treated the fans last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KT3AVFC Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 No one can be pleased with how things are at the moment but it would be a joke to sack a manager after just 3 months. The most successful clubs tend to stable clubs. The timing of MON's departure was massively destabilising for the club. Why would we want to inflict even greater instability. I believe that Houiller will come good but that he has to be given time. As far as I can see even if we were to sack him we'd be in the same position as we were before he was appointed with regard to the lack of any suitable alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Anyone remember this run of "form"? English Premier Liverpool 3-1 Aston Villa 28-10-2006 English Premier Aston Villa 2-0 Blackburn 05-11-2006 English League Cup Chelsea 4-0 Aston Villa 08-11-2006 English Premier Everton 0-1 Aston Villa 11-11-2006 English Premier Wigan 0-0 Aston Villa 19-11-2006 English Premier Aston Villa 1-1 Middlesbro 25-11-2006 English Premier Aston Villa 1-3 Man City 29-11-2006 English Premier Portsmouth 2-2 Aston Villa 02-12-2006 English Premier Sheff Utd 2-2 Aston Villa 11-12-2006 English Premier Aston Villa 0-1 Bolton 16-12-2006 English Premier Aston Villa 0-3 Man Utd 23-12-2006 English Premier Tottenham 2-1 Aston Villa 26-12-2006 English Premier Charlton 2-1 Aston Villa 30-12-2006 English Premier Aston Villa 0-0 Chelsea 02-01-2007 English FA Cup Man Utd 2-1 Aston Villa 07-01-2007 English Premier Man Utd 3-1 Aston Villa 13-01-2007 English Premier Aston Villa 2-0 Watford 20-01-2007 English Premier Newcastle 3-1 Aston Villa 31-01-2007 English Premier Aston Villa 1-0 West Ham 03-02-2007 English Premier Reading 2-0 Aston Villa 10-02-2007 English Premier Fulham 1-1 Aston Villa 03-03-2007 English Premier Aston Villa 0-1 Arsenal 14-03-2007 English Premier Aston Villa 0-0 Liverpool 18-03-2007 English Premier Aston Villa 1-1 Everton 02-04-2007 W = 3 D = 8 L = 12 MON's first season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 With a squad of players who had just finished 16th and heading for relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuintonK6 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Houllier OUT !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heystally! Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 With a squad of players who had just finished 16th and heading for relegation. And even then we didn't play as badly as we did last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 With a squad of players who had just finished 16th and heading for relegation. And even then we didn't play as badly as we did last night.Quite. You could at least see what the team was trying to do, that there was a plan and at least the players actually tried to play. Not like now at all. May as well compare this to DOL's first season as well then should we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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