QldVilla Posted July 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, Okonokos said: Except he literally is. Second biggest game of his career. Remember? What is it about people who find one instance to prove their narrative, but conveniently forget the rest of the evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, QldVilla said: What is it about people who find one instance to prove their narrative, but conveniently forget the rest of the evidence? Show me the rest of the evidence then? Come on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, MaVilla said: the fact he has even had to come out and state this, shows what rocket polishers some of the media (and fans) are. I'm so glad he's come out and said that! Shut all those idiots making assumptions up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teale's 'tache Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) I love Jack to bits, but a specialist penalty taker he is not, it's not like we had Le Tissier or Signori lined up and they refused to take one. To my memory Jack has taken 2 penalties, one in the play-off semi-final against WBA which he scored and granted that's a pressure situation, and the other away at Sheffield Utd which he missed. Southgate said he's picked the takers based on what they did in training, which is fine, you'd hope he also of took in to account who can handle the pressure/occasion and who can't. Keane's comments are garbage designed to generate clicks and grab attention. There's maybe a sliver of a point with Sterling being a much more senior player with England, but to be honest I wouldn't of been confident of him scoring a penalty either (his record is scored 1 missed 3 in the PL). I'm not sure what Keane expects them to do, they can't force Southgate to pick them and even if they did Keane would just play it the other way screaming lack of respect or some other guff, you can't win. It's not like they have amazing penalty records behind them, so why call them out? Why Grealish in particular? Because it's a name that generates interest. I've no doubt Jack would've taken a penalty had he been given the chance. Edited July 12, 2021 by Teale's 'tache typo in my typo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted July 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Okonokos said: Show me the rest of the evidence then? Come on... I’m not your mother mate, do some research. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) Love that Grealish has basically called Southgate out. Why should he sit around and take the flack when the manager made the decision. Grealish owes Southgate no loyalty after the way he’s been treated. Edited July 12, 2021 by WHY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, WHY said: Love that Grealish has basically called Southgate out. Why should he sit around and take the flack when the manager made the decision. Grealish owes Southgate no loyalty after the way he’s been treated. I don't think that's what he intended at all. He's not a prolific penalty taker so I don't think anyone would be angry he didn't take one. Keane just needs to wind his neck in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rolta Posted July 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, WHY said: Love that Grealish has basically called Southgate out. Why should he sit around and take the flack when the manager made the decision. Grealish owes Southgate no loyalty after the way he’s been treated. He didn't call Southgate out. He corrected people accusing him of avoiding taking a penalty. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrassyNoel Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Good for him. Jack has a right to reply - anyone with a backbone would want their side heard. I'd say just once though, and this is as far as he should take it unless directly asked (interviews etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Teale's 'tache said: I love Jack to bits, but a specialist penalty taker he is not, it's not like we had Le Tissier or Signori lined up and they refused to take one. To my memory Jack has taken 2 penalties, one in the play-off semi-final against WBA which he scored and granted that's a pressure situation, and the other away at Sheffield Utd which he missed. Southgate said he's picked the takers based on what they did in training, which is fine, you'd hope he also of took in to account who can handle the pressure/occasion and who can't. Keane's comments are garbage designed to generate clicks and grab attention. There's maybe a sliver of a point with Sterling being a much more senior player with England, but to be honest I wouldn't of been confident of him scoring a penalty either (his record is scored 1 missed 3 in the PL). I'm not sure what Keane expects them to do, they can't force Southgate to pick them and even if they did Keane would just play it the other way screaming lack of respect or some other guff, you can't win. It's not like they having amazing penalty records behind them, so why call them out? Why Grealish in particular? Because it's a name that generates interest. I've no doubt Jack would've taken a penalty had he been given the chance. Agreed. But perhaps Keene thinks that Jack should have demanded to come on earlier, stuck one on Southgate and yelled at Mount, “Oi Mason! Sling your hook son, we’ve got a match to win here.” Then stride on to the pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I’m glad Grealish didn’t take a penalty and miss. Feel for Saka. He’s just a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, QldVilla said: I’m not your mother mate, do some research. Are you Roy Keene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Worth noting that Grealish actually has high pressure penalty shootout experience (which he scored). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I don't think that's what he intended at all. He's not a prolific penalty taker so I don't think anyone would be angry he didn't take one. Keane just needs to wind his neck in. It was a carefully worded tweet imo. He is letting the World know Southgate ignored him again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teale's 'tache Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: Agreed. But perhaps Keene thinks that Jack should have demanded to come on earlier, stuck one on Southgate and yelled at Mount, “Oi Mason! Sling your hook son, we’ve got a match to win here.” Then stride on to the pitch? I'm sure in Keane's mind there's nothing violence or intimidation can't solve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, Teale's 'tache said: Keane's comments are garbage designed to generate clicks and grab attention Keene’s a bitter old rent-a-quote doing exactly what he does. Same as any chancer on Talksport and other places that just need clicks and engagement. It’s sad to read fans - especially Villa fans - who should know better echoing this tripe, but such is the modern world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, QldVilla said: What is it about people who find one instance to prove their narrative, but conveniently forget the rest of the evidence? He doesn't take penalties for Aston Villa. That's your evidence that he doesn't want the responsibility? Not that there might be better penalty takers in the squad, that it's a team game and despite occasional evidence to the contrary, he knows we're not actually Jack Grealish FC? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rolta said: He didn't call Southgate out. He corrected people accusing him of avoiding taking a penalty. Do you think Southgate will be happy that Grealish has told the world he ignored him again, of course he won’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, Teale's 'tache said: I'm sure in Keane's mind there's nothing violence or intimidation can't solve... Especially on a pitch where he’s protected or in the safety of a studio. A bully of the highest order. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, WHY said: It was a carefully worded tweet imo. He is letting the World know Southgate ignored him again. So now the conspiracy can continue. "It's all because of the tweet" Brilliant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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