Stevo985 Posted November 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Zatman said: he sent Coutinho to Qatar quick enough How is Coutinho relevant to a discussion about "really good attacking players"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: How is Coutinho relevant to a discussion about "really good attacking players"? Because the point made was why would Unai turn down a 100 million player when Coutinho also cost 100 million and was shown the door 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Zatman said: Because the point made was why would Unai turn down a 100 million player when Coutinho also cost 100 million and was shown the door Gotcha But I think the answer is Grealish is still good. Coutinho was shit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Purely on ability of course we’d have him back. He would probably still be the best player in the team. However there seems to be a great team spirit at the moment with everyone pulling together and it not all being about one player. Would we want to risk upsetting that? All hypothetical though right as there’s no real talk of him coming back is there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted November 1, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2023 47 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Purely on ability of course we’d have him back. He would probably still be the best player in the team. However there seems to be a great team spirit at the moment with everyone pulling together and it not all being about one player. Would we want to risk upsetting that? All hypothetical though right as there’s no real talk of him coming back is there ? I don't see why having Jack back would upset team spirit. Everyone seems to love him at Man City, everyone loved him at Villa I don't know why he seems to be being portrayed as some sort of egotistical primadonna 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I don't see why having Jack back would upset team spirit. Everyone seems to love him at Man City, everyone loved him at Villa I don't know why he seems to be being portrayed as some sort of egotistical primadonna It probably wouldn’t but it was all about him and the whole club generally accepted this. The tactic used to be get the ball and give it to Jack. I’d like to think we’ve evolved past that as a team now. I’m sure he’d be fine with that but it’s a completely different dynamic now than when he was at the club. Him on the left and Diaby on the right would be great to see though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: It probably wouldn’t but it was all about him and the whole club generally accepted this. The tactic used to be get the ball and give it to Jack. I’d like to think we’ve evolved past that as a team now. I’m sure he’d be fine with that but it’s a completely different dynamic now than when he was at the club. Him on the left and Diaby on the right would be great to see though. Said before I think I would prefer Ramsey on the left to Grealish and not stunt his development 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: It probably wouldn’t but it was all about him and the whole club generally accepted this. The tactic used to be get the ball and give it to Jack. I’d like to think we’ve evolved past that as a team now. I’m sure he’d be fine with that but it’s a completely different dynamic now than when he was at the club. Him on the left and Diaby on the right would be great to see though. But the tactic isn't that at Man City and everyone still loves him. Just seems to be one of those things along with him having liver disease and going to die of alcoholism by the time he's 35 that gets thrown at him with little substance behind him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted November 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) I appreciate it’s all hypotheticals being discussed but whether I’d want Grealish back would be rather dependent on how much he would cost and what sort of wages he’d be on. Edit - fwiw, I don’t think he will be returning and presently I’m not massively fussed either way. Edited November 1, 2023 by Mark Albrighton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyeddie Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 I don't think Unai would ever want him here as JG would want to be the main man at Villa. There is only room for one main man, and that is now UE. Also, due to his life style, I believe he will deteriorate rapidly once he is past 30. He would want high wages and a long contract, so he would just end up being an expensive Micah Richards. We might get one good season out of him, but then just be stuck with a dud. I'd steer well clear of him. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BleedClaretAndBlue Posted November 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2023 Grealish didnt want to play for us. He saw himself above us. The media were touting him for a move away constantly and he was loving it. He was constantly taking the piss whilst he was here, always in the media for some sort of negativity whether it be for crashing cars, speeding, going out on a bender an hour after telling everyone to stay home during lockdown, having meetings with other clubs whilst injured. What a captain. His dive infront of the Villa fans at the shitihad, him jumping up celebrating on the bench when City scored against us on the big screen at VP, crying in the tunnel when we were beating them at HT on that last day . I have never known a Villa ‘fan’ to speak down about this club and drag the clubs name through the mud like he did with all his off field antics. He knew he was the best player and could get away with it all. We’re in a great place now, and the best part is that its without him. The one thing I want to see more than anything is us to beat City in a cup final just to see his stupid face. I hope there’s a part of him that’s jealous of what we’re doing right now and that he’s not part of it. Doubtful I know but I think he’s not fussed about Villa in the slightest since he saw the vitriolic reaction when he left. I still cant stand the sight of him if you couldnt tell . Turncoat City fan now anyway. Used to be United though. “This, but in red.” 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I don't see why having Jack back would upset team spirit. Everyone seems to love him at Man City, everyone loved him at Villa I don't know why he seems to be being portrayed as some sort of egotistical primadonna Out of interest what makes you think this? I heard quite a few thought he was a bit of a prick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Grealish didnt want to play for us. He saw himself above us. The media were touting him for a move away constantly and he was loving it. He was constantly taking the piss whilst he was here, always in the media for some sort of negativity whether it be for crashing cars, speeding, going out on a bender an hour after telling everyone to stay home during lockdown, having meetings with other clubs whilst injured. What a captain. His dive infront of the Villa fans at the shitihad, him jumping up celebrating on the bench when City scored against us on the big screen at VP, crying in the tunnel when we were beating them at HT on that last day . I have never known a Villa ‘fan’ to speak down about this club and drag the clubs name through the mud like he did with all his off field antics. He knew he was the best player and could get away with it all. We’re in a great place now, and the best part is that its without him. The one thing I want to see more than anything is us to beat City in a cup final just to see his stupid face. I hope there’s a part of him that’s jealous of what we’re doing right now and that he’s not part of it. Doubtful I know but I think he’s not fussed about Villa in the slightest since he saw the vitriolic reaction when he left. I still cant stand the sight of him if you couldnt tell . Turncoat City fan now anyway. Used to be United though. “This, but in red.” He won the treble last season... He kind of is above us and I'm not so sure that after winning the CL last season he is overly jealous of us maybe qualifying for it... We're in a good place, he's in a good place, hate to say it but a man City player supporting villa he's doing OK for himself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted November 1, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: with little substance behind him But what substance is it?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted November 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2023 Anyone else really, really bored of this endless debate? It never ends or actually gets anywhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: Anyone else really, really bored of this endless debate? It never ends or actually gets anywhere. Neither do half the topics on off topic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 I don't think Jack was a primadonna while here at all. He was the best player at the club and Smith did effectively run our attack through him, which made sense because of his quality. I don't think he ever held himself above anyone else at all. He was very friendly with his teammates, appeared to be quite well liked, and he regularly spoke of his love for Aston Villa. People slag him off for that now but it's not a lie, he's just an ambitious footballer who wanted to win trophies and play at the highest level. That doesn't make him any less of an Aston Villa fan. I think you'll find he's probably still close with a lot of his former teammates here and they'd welcome him back. I think you'd find that Unai would have no issue incorporating someone of his quality into the team, and nothing Jack has ever done would suggest that he'd throw his toys out of the pram if he wasn't having every attack played through him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 I'm not sure why there's still anger/ animosity towards him tbh. Great deal for both parties, and we are all in much better places. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 3, 2023 On 01/11/2023 at 17:17, Vive_La_Villa said: Out of interest what makes you think this? I heard quite a few thought he was a bit of a prick. Like who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Like who? I don’t know. Just saying what I heard from someone that works at the club. Could be bullshit but you seem to state ‘everyone’ loved him as if it was a fact. It may not have been the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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