Popular Post DJBOB Posted September 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2023 13 hours ago, AndyM3000 said: His own fans making clips to take the piss out of him now. Get out lad. One of the best progressive passers and carriers of the ball relegated to holding the ball on the LW and passing it back. A Ferrari just doing slow turns in the lot. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: See the Greal-hiss fans are out again... That Project Restart season: Luiz was fantastic and Trézéguet weighed in with some solid performances and VERY important goals. That's the way it is, you cannot change it no matter how much you might love Greal-hiss. Does "greal-hiss fans" refer to fans that don't or do like him, i am confused? I think the most telling sign is this weird argument is that Man City passed up buying Luiz back at a lower fee than he was worth, Trezeguet ended on our bench/going to Turkey, yet Grealish went for a £100m, the arguement that the others were more important, or downplaying Grealishs role, is just wrong. Luiz and Trezegeut did do their parts (especially Trezegeuts goals were important in the latest stages), and Luiz has developed into a super star. Yet Grealish went for a premier league record fee, which he just would not have if he didn't perform really well Edited September 28, 2023 by Chicken Field 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bobzy Posted September 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: See the Greal-hiss fans are out again... That Project Restart season: Luiz was fantastic and Trézéguet weighed in with some solid performances and VERY important goals. That's the way it is, you cannot change it no matter how much you might love Greal-hiss. Greal-hiss. **** hell - are you 12? 5 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: See the Greal-hiss fans are out again... That Project Restart season: Luiz was fantastic and Trézéguet weighed in with some solid performances and VERY important goals. That's the way it is, you cannot change it no matter how much you might love Greal-hiss. What, the actual ****, is this? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, bobzy said: Greal-hiss. **** hell - are you 12? 53 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: What, the actual ****, is this? You both may love him but I don't have to, he's a clown and the way he went about engineering a move out of Villa was snake-like. Hence the hiss. Really shouldn't need to explain myself at all, just a bit of a joke. Don't take things too seriously or emotionally. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Mic09 said: You love films - Netflix love making films to make money You love food - The local restaurant loves making food to make money You love technology - Samsung or Apple love making phones to make money You love music - your favourite band love making albums to make money It's a good deal if you ask me. Same for Grealish - you love Aston Villa - Grealish loves playing football and wants to make the most of it, including money. Let's not confuse the end consumer (AV Fan) to the business providing the product. Everyone needs to make a clear line between the metaphysical concept of 'ASTON VILLA' and the business behind the scenes. I couldn't care less about NSWE, Purslow, Heck, Grealish. I wish them the best, but I don't support them. I support Aston Villa. I love films - I don't love netflix. Grealish is just like anyone else. It's his career. Let him make the most of it, and let's not re-writing history about how good he was. He was incredible. In my experience, once big money comes into it, all of those things cease to capture the magic they once did. The biggest blockbusters, or Netflix shows are usually drab cookie-cutter experiences. Mainstream music is largely forgettable, more focused on making catchy hooks to catch fire on TikTok than creating anything lasting. AAA video games have blended into a sea of indistinguishable open world action games, and the most interesting titles seem to be coming from the indie scene etc etc. I think there's a good point in there about how the extreme commodification of the sport has ruined the zeal of it for fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 11 hours ago, Stevo985 said: If anything, this argument about Trez's goals being more important just shows how you can't base discussions about ability and talent around output. Trez was shit. He scored some important goals, but he was shit. The fact he's even being mentioned in a conversation about Grealish is hilarious The thing about goals is that they're the end point, and the memorable bit. Nobody's going to be arsed to go back and watch all those old games again and find all the times Trez didn't track a runner, was out of position, misplaced a pass, misplaced a cross, missed a chance, but I promise they happened. The reason we remember Grealish as being brilliant and Trez as not is that in basically all aspects of the game he was better, not (just) scoring goals. This isn't basketball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: The thing about goals is that they're the end point, and the memorable bit. Nobody's going to be arsed to go back and watch all those old games again and find all the times Trez didn't track a runner, was out of position, misplaced a pass, misplaced a cross, missed a chance, but I promise they happened. The reason we remember Grealish as being brilliant and Trez as not is that in basically all aspects of the game he was better, not (just) scoring goals. This isn't basketball! It's so weird how much football discourse is starting to mirror basketball's. So much emphasis on goals/assists, and looking at trophies won by players as if they're not just 1 player out of 11 on the pitch at any one time. Very very rarely can 1 player carry an entire team to anything meaningful like they can in the NBA. Watch the general discourse around Harry Kane change this year once he wins a trophy or 2, or 3. Within a year, you'll see his name brought up in greatest strikers of all time discussions. He didn't do anything but join another team 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: See the Greal-hiss fans are out again... That Project Restart season: Luiz was fantastic and Trézéguet weighed in with some solid performances and VERY important goals. That's the way it is, you cannot change it no matter how much you might love Greal-hiss. You do realise this is the Grealish thread? There is a reason why he’s brought up in here…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: You do realise this is the Grealish thread? There is a reason why he’s brought up in here…. Obviously... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2023 5 hours ago, bobzy said: Greal-hiss. **** hell - are you 12? Pathetic isn't it. Everyone knows it's Greasey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Biscuits shins is my favourite name for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 I prefer Piss Snozzle McGinty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 On 28/09/2023 at 09:38, Stevo985 said: So you're basically saying you don't like him so you're pretending he wasn't as good as he was. As long as people are admitting it I don’t give credit to anyone who leaves us so they can cheat to win things… 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 22 hours ago, luckyeddie said: I used to love football, rugby and cricket before big business killed them as competitive sports, now I can't be arsed as we all know the outcome before the season starts. The entertainment factor is dying, because that uncertainty connected with entertainment is the enemy of the capitalist running these sport. I totally agree with supporting the club and not the players. If they leave Villa, they're basically dead to me. Grealish was so good because everything was set up for him (Smith's good management) to do what he does best, but the last couple of seasons have shown he cannot be that robotic player PL teams require. I love that he was a maverick, but he preferred to be a better paid cog in a richer wheel than a legend at Villa, so **** him. He preferred the idea of doing stupid little dances for their verminous fans and hearing dirty Mancs cheering his name than “his own” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DJ_Villain Posted September 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2023 On 28/09/2023 at 09:38, Mic09 said: I don't understand why though. The kid left to play in the most successful team in the CL. Who can blame him. He got us one of the highest fees in history on top of that. He was the best attacking player in my 18 years of supporting Villa, his talent is incredible. Everyone benefited from this deal, yet somehow we now argue against this. It's a footballer. It's not your ex girlfriend. This is true. However, hypothetically, if your childhood sweetheart who you’d been with for years and who openly told you how much she loved you one day got an offer from the local lowlife to become the next big thing in pornography… And she decided to go for it because “it’s a short career” and she “could win awards”… but, after she was all worn out, not the woman she once was and the whole world had shot their load over her… she promised she would come back to you… Would you take her back? 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, DJ_Villain said: This is true. However, hypothetically, if your childhood sweetheart who you’d been with for years and who openly told you how much she loved you one day got an offer from the local lowlife to become the next big thing in pornography… And she decided to go for it because “it’s a short career” and she “could win awards”… but, after she was all worn out, not the woman she once was and the whole world had shot their load over her… she promised she would come back to you… Would you take her back? What a bizarre analogy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 4 hours ago, DJ_Villain said: This is true. However, hypothetically, if your childhood sweetheart who you’d been with for years and who openly told you how much she loved you one day got an offer from the local lowlife to become the next big thing in pornography… And she decided to go for it because “it’s a short career” and she “could win awards”… but, after she was all worn out, not the woman she once was and the whole world had shot their load over her… she promised she would come back to you… Would you take her back? This is sensational. Absolutely sensational. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 4 hours ago, DJ_Villain said: This is true. However, hypothetically, if your childhood sweetheart who you’d been with for years and who openly told you how much she loved you one day got an offer from the local lowlife to become the next big thing in pornography… And she decided to go for it because “it’s a short career” and she “could win awards”… but, after she was all worn out, not the woman she once was and the whole world had shot their load over her… she promised she would come back to you… Would you take her back? I don't know - why did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Some of the post in this thread are just utterly bizarre. Let it go lads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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