Summer Transfer Window (2024/25)

[Delphinho123]

13 minutes ago, paul514 said:

Yes, he would slot into left midfield.

I would love him to come back but it would depend on what City wanted as a fee and what Jack would accept for wages.

No way we’d buy him back. City couldn’t take the hit on the loss - they’d want too much for him.

Would be a season long loan with a decent fee and covering his wages. That alone is likely to be north of £15m.

Listen, I’m not going to sugarcoat it, Delphinho calls it as he sees it. I want him back. I want him back bad. 

[fightoffyour]

3 hours ago, Delphinho123 said:

No way we’d buy him back. City couldn’t take the hit on the loss - they’d want too much for him.

Would be a season long loan with a decent fee and covering his wages. That alone is likely to be north of £15m.

Listen, I’m not going to sugarcoat it, Delphinho calls it as he sees it. I want him back. I want him back bad. 

He'll be half way through a 6 year deal that cost £100 m, i.e. he has £50 m book value left amortising at £16.7 m per year.

If he stays another year that would cost City £16.7 m that year in amortisation, so if they sell him in the summer for anything more than £50 m - £16.7 m = £33.3 m they are "up" on net loss for that year. Therefore, he might no longer cost too much for someone, if my calculations are right.

[Villa_Vids]

Defo see Jack at West Ham.

[AvonVillain]

Saudi league. We're not interested.

[paul514]

25 minutes ago, fightoffyour said:

He'll be half way through a 6 year deal that cost £100 m, i.e. he has £50 m book value left amortising at £16.7 m per year.

If he stays another year that would cost City £16.7 m that year in amortisation, so if they sell him in the summer for anything more than £50 m - £16.7 m = £33.3 m they are "up" on net loss for that year. Therefore, he might no longer cost too much for someone, if my calculations are right.

Your calculations are correct, the book value will be 50m in the summer, as for the rest of your calculations it depends how Man City see it and their FFP position to replace him.

If the deal was 40m, 200k a week for 4 years I would do the deal. If it was higher, I wouldn't as there is no resale value no matter how good Jack is.

[paul514]

3 hours ago, Delphinho123 said:

No way we’d buy him back. City couldn’t take the hit on the loss - they’d want too much for him.

Would be a season long loan with a decent fee and covering his wages. That alone is likely to be north of £15m.

Listen, I’m not going to sugarcoat it, Delphinho calls it as he sees it. I want him back. I want him back bad. 

I'd love him to be our ball carrier again

[Sam-AVFC]

18 minutes ago, AvonVillain said:

Saudi league. We're not interested.

I'm not sure how well his particular brand sells to Saudi. 

[AvonVillain]

1 minute ago, Sam-AVFC said:

I'm not sure how well his particular brand sells to Saudi. 

Time for Spurs then. His 'dream move' since the Steve Bruce years.

[zab6359]

13 hours ago, Jareth said:

Grealish possibly being flogged in the summer - would he fit in an Emery team?

No!

[LondonLax]

We’re not signing a player like that with our FFP troubles.

[paul514]

29 minutes ago, LondonLax said:

We’re not signing a player like that with our FFP troubles.

we are 15m under the 3 year limit and will now have a substantially higher income next season due to CL and sponsors. We can also cut wages with our fringe players going by a hell of a lot and we can sell 1 star for big money to spend a lot.

[paul514]

1 hour ago, zab6359 said:

No!

Ramsey is our ball carrier which is what Grealish mainly does and he is obviously better. He clearly fits

[Tomaszk]

No chance I want Grealish back. Leave it in the past.

Worse player than when he left, injury prone, huge doubts over his intelligence and commitment to play in an Emery side.

He spent the first 12 months after leaving exclaiming his shock over how shit his Villa teammates were and how crap training was now he's seen such excellent training at England and City.

Edited March 22 by Tomaszk

[Tom13]

1 minute ago, Tomaszk said:

No chance I want Grealish back. Leave it in the past.

Worse player than when he left, injury prone, huge doubts over his intelligence and commitment to play in an Emery side.

He spent the first 12 months after leaving exclaiming his shock over how shit his Villa teammates were and how crap training was now he's seen such excellent training at England and City.

Yeah I think I'm leaning towards this thinking as well tbh. Grealish is an unbelievable player, but we've moved on. Don't think Emery would take kindly to some of his off-the-field antics either. I'd say Emery likes lower profile players rather than Love Island wannabees.

Edited March 22 by Tom13

[LondonLax]

42 minutes ago, paul514 said:

we are 15m under the 3 year limit and will now have a substantially higher income next season due to CL and sponsors. We can also cut wages with our fringe players going by a hell of a lot and we can sell 1 star for big money to spend a lot.

Yes we could potentially sell a star player to fund the purchase but I can’t see us adding him to the current squad.

I don’t think we would be looking as making such an expensive signing though even if we sell to buy. We’d sell a star to reinvest in a couple of positions and ease FFP. 

[tinker]

4 hours ago, LondonLax said:

Yes we could potentially sell a star player to fund the purchase but I can’t see us adding him to the current squad.

I don’t think we would be looking as making such an expensive signing though even if we sell to buy. We’d sell a star to reinvest in a couple of positions and ease FFP. 

 

5 hours ago, paul514 said:

Ramsey is our ball carrier which is what Grealish mainly does and he is obviously better. He clearly fits

Could we sell  Ramsey and buy Jack and would it make sense from a ffp and would we think it was a good deal.

I'm thinking it would be if he can stay fit but it's a close call tbh.

Edited March 22 by tinker

[Jas10]

5 hours ago, Tom13 said:

Yeah I think I'm leaning towards this thinking as well tbh. Grealish is an unbelievable player, but we've moved on. Don't think Emery would take kindly to some of his off-the-field antics either. I'd say Emery likes lower profile players rather than Love Island wannabees.

Yeah, I’d rather we avoided the media circus and massive wages… would be a silly and potentially damaging signing now… we have a great environment and atmosphere at the club… a family… as Unai says and wants. Let’s not ruin that with an overpaid attention whore who is past his best… leave the past behind and continue on this journey with Unai’s strategy…

players who are about “we, we, we” not “ME, ME, MEEEEEE!!!”

The guy was pretty much dead to me once he left and the truth came out, he’s irrelevant… don’t really like him and what he’s become now… huge ego and he really isn’t all that any more…

Edited March 22 by Jas10

[Jas10]

Ramsey > JG

every time 

ppl getting on the kid’s back and calling for his sale just because he got injured  (JG is even more of a specialist for that)

JJ has been brilliant for us and only going to get better

huge potential, especially under Unai, and actually “one of our own”

also, much better to sign the “next best things” for good value than expensive has-beens…

Edited March 22 by Jas10

[Jareth]

If Grealish came back to Villa he'd be returning to a very different environment, he'd no longer be the main man. I think it'd work oddly enough, but there is of course a gaping chasm between what he costs and what he can give in return, given injuries, partying, and his changed game since Pep. Not my money...

[Jas10]