useless Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) Relegation battle Edited November 14, 2023 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 It will be 3 from Burnley, Luton and Sheffield United At this stage it doesn't look like much of a battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I wouldn't rule Bournemouth out of it, they are also awful. But it's definitely 3 from those 4, everyone else will be safe. 33 points could be enough to stay up this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Nice to see this topic in Other Football rather than the Villa Talk section for a change! Guess we still have the panic-buying January transfer to come yet which might change things, which club do we think Danny Ings is going to be at come February? Forest home form will be enough for them to stay up, Everton I guess will depend on if they get a points deduction but I think they will have enough to stop up regardless with how bad it is down there. Fulham despite their lack of goals, will hoover around the bottom 6 but have enough to stay up. Between Burnley, Sheff Utd, Luton and Bournemouth for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted November 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2023 Some general stats on promoted teams and their subsequent first season (back) in the top flight. Over the previous 31 seasons, 92 teams have been promoted to the Premier League. Of those, 52 teams have survived their first season. For those interested, those promoted from the second tier as Champions have survived that opening season on 20 occasions, runners up have survived 18 times, play off winners 14 times. There was of course one season when second place didn’t get promoted and were involved in the play offs instead. (That team, Reading subsequently didn’t get promoted, but whose laughing now, eh). The last time all three promoted clubs were relegated was 1997/98 when Bolton, Barnsley and Palace relegated. That season Palace finished bottom on 33 points, Barnsley next on 35 and Bolton were relegated in 18th on 40 points, losing out on goal difference. Weirdly enough, Everton of all teams finished 17th and survived by having a minus 15 goal difference compared to Bolton’s minus 20. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, RichW said: Nice to see this topic in Other Football rather than the Villa Talk section for a change! Guess we still have the panic-buying January transfer to come yet which might change things, which club do we think Danny Ings is going to be at come February? Forest home form will be enough for them to stay up, Everton I guess will depend on if they get a points deduction but I think they will have enough to stop up regardless with how bad it is down there. Fulham despite their lack of goals, will hoover around the bottom 6 but have enough to stay up. Between Burnley, Sheff Utd, Luton and Bournemouth for me. If we match our PPG from the relegation year until the end of the season we'd have 37 points. That's a good indication of how far we've come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Dream would be Luton, Bournemouth and Burnley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 This is gonna be kne of the shittest years for a relegation battle as we all know who is going down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: This is gonna be kne of the shittest years for a relegation battle as we all know who is going down Looking very likely. Sheffield could pick up, and others could well get worse and dragged in. Be good for us if some of the bottom half teams started taking anything off the top half (us excluded). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 23 minutes ago, MrBlack said: Looking very likely. Sheffield could pick up, and others could well get worse and dragged in. Be good for us if some of the bottom half teams started taking anything off the top half (us excluded). I think if its the newly promoted clubs all go down next season could be competitive at the bottom as leicester will be strong and i think leeds will prob come back and be strong too along with saints/Ipswich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Bournemouth have improved in recent weeks but are still not great They will survive on about 28 points. Best league in the World 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 latest odds at Bet365 usually one of the three promoted teams do quite well in the first season but this season you have to say the three of them are pretty poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, imavillan said: latest odds at Bet365 usually one of the three promoted teams do quite well in the first season but this season you have to say the three of them are pretty poor absolute hilarious . Burnley is absolute free money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Sheffield United have Bournemouth, Luton home and Burnley away in their next 7. Brentford at home could also be winnable if they're below par. If they can be on 13-14 points at half way stage they'll still have a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted November 14, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 14, 2023 18 hours ago, Pinebro said: Dream would be Luton, Bournemouth and Burnley. Dream would be one of the above Everton and Man Utd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Speak for yourself, my dream would be Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Latest odds with Evertons 10 point reduction, sees them come in from 9/2 to 2/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Burnley, Luton and Sheffield United look hopelessly out of their depth. Could have given the entire league a 10 point deduction and I think they'd still be the 3. I dont think they'll get 70 points between them. Id like Luton to stay up of the 3, but I just can't see it happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 20 hours ago, StewieGriffin said: Burnley, Luton and Sheffield United look hopelessly out of their depth. Could have given the entire league a 10 point deduction and I think they'd still be the 3. I dont think they'll get 70 points between them. Id like Luton to stay up of the 3, but I just can't see it happening. I don't think they'll get 40 points between them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 21 hours ago, StewieGriffin said: Burnley, Luton and Sheffield United look hopelessly out of their depth. Also if you look at the history of promoted teams, pretty much all of them do worse in the second half of the season than the first half. If you get promoted and want to stay up, history tells us that (usually) you need to start fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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