villa4europe Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, sidcow said: Southgate is a total dinosaur. His tactics are non existent. He's been carried by a hugely talented team who are scraping through against poor opponents inspite of him. As soon as we come up against a good team we'll lose. Honest, it might be my memory struggling to think of how bad we were under Roy but the regression under him now is so bad that he is taking back to where we were, we look like strangers clueless as to what we should be doing Which with this squad is ridiculous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Didn't we beat these 7-0 previous. Yep. That's how terrible they are. But without our most elite players performing Steve Gerrard style moments of magic Southgate has zero idea what to do about them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 We are gonna be like Villa with Grealish. Belingham will have to carry this England squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted November 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 20, 2023 Just now, WallisFrizz said: That's disgusting. How's he meant to feel? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strog Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jonesy7211 said: "Well, Maguire defended well, but Ollie really needs to do better with all those chances he had" or some crap to that effect. “Harry came on and made an instant impact, I thought Cole Palmer did well too” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Just now, WallisFrizz said: But Kane and Guehi both get 180. **** off Gary you word removed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Honest, it might be my memory struggling to think of how bad we were under Roy but the regression under him now is so bad that he is taking back to where we were, we look like strangers clueless as to what we should be doing Which with this squad is ridiculous The players might now have a laugh and a joke together while having a game of darts, but apart from that, has this team improved much over the 7 years Southgate has been here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted November 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 20, 2023 Rashford has been beyond terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochheads twin Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, Zatman said: I hope Konsa had a nice vacation to the Balkans His time will not have been wasted. Unai will have told him to closely study Harry Maguire and then know exactly what not to do when he gets back to the Villa. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 20, 2023 He's replaced Ollie with Kane and literally nothing has changed. In fact at least Ollie had a couple of sniffs. Kanes not even had that. This is a bunch of top Premier League players who each one is amongst the best in their teams against North Macedonia for God's sake. It's tragic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 No way Southgate’s luck will hold for another really kind route through the next tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted November 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: Yep. That's how terrible they are. But without our most elite players performing Steve Gerrard style moments of magic Southgate has zero idea what to do about them. 100 percent. Sorry to say I was kind of still half on the fence about England before tonight, but this is a total waste of talent. I want the last 90 minutes of my life back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 As always.maybe him and Watkins are better to be not involved with this manager. Then a fresh start under a new manager in Sept with no favourites. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Genie Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Just now, Lichfield Dean said: Rashford has been beyond terrible. For 6 months, still gets picked for England. Maguire shit for 2 or 3 years, still gets picked. Philips can’t get on the pitch for City, gets picked. So many others who shouldn’t be there. No problem they look a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Just now, foreveryoung said: The players might now have a laugh and a joke together while having a game of darts, but apart from that, has this team improved much over the 7 years Southgate has been here. That's where I am, not really... And this is the England set up that won everything at youth level too, he's had a better talent pool than Roy and I don't think the players are as abject and dejected but in terms of the tactics it's every bit as bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Thank god there's no more internationals for several months now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: Is that actually true? If so our man must feel like shit. What fantastic management. What a word removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Two games against teams ranked 124th and 64th respectively. And he says he wants to be ranked as the number 1 team in the world. Absolutely tnuc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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