villa4europe Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 8 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: This rotate key players is nonsense. Top clubs don't do it like many want to on here. Rice has played bulk PL minutes for Arsenal, Salah for Liverpool and on and on. Kamara has played less because of 5 YC suspension But it's still why man city won the treble... Compare sakas minutes last season to Grealish / foden / mahrez / alvarez Liverpool don't do it with salah but try it with nunez, jota, diaz But we're obviously nowhere near that, man city get away with it because they pay so much money and play so many games, it's chicken and egg, to go deep in 4 comps you need quality back ups but unless you're going deep in to 4 comps you can't feed the beast That's why imo you go younger, 2 more duran esque players at RB and CM would be ideal, problem is everyone is looking for that RB because there aren't many anymore 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Also having a quick think about what other teams around us do in the 80th minute when their CM starts to tire on a yellow card Man city - bring on 100 cap 4 CL winner kovacic... That's why they win the league, we can't do that Arsenal - jorginho again we can't do that, or fabio vieira which is where I hope we can try and emulate but they also took a gamble with lokongo which didn't pay off Liverpool - endo who I would say is of the same ilk as dendoncker, then gravenberch, elliot, Jones and next season carvalho which again is where I think we should be looking, they've also got bacjetic coming through the youth set up (and check out Liverpool not spending money again) Spurs - oliver skipp... Newcastle - longstaff or miley Man Utd - mainoo So firstly when you look around dendoncker isn't that bad as an option, lots of exaggeration as to how bad he is for what he is and secondly I'd like to build like Liverpool, theyve got a couple of guys who will only get better, we've got tim who I hope comes good but I don't see it yet So I like the Gloukh link earlier in the week, gourna douath at salzburg too, that's where I think we should be shopping, £20m 20 year old at CM and RB for me please 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Have we given up on bringing Tim through at CM? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Have we given up on bringing Tim through at CM? Dunno, he's made a few benches recently hasn't he? Not sure after his injury where he actually is The timing for him right now is about as good as it possibly could be so the opportunity is there, it'll be a shame if he's not at the level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Kiwivillan said: Have we given up on bringing Tim through at CM? Am I right in saying he came here as a 6 but the club see him more as an 8/10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Kiwivillan said: Have we given up on bringing Tim through at CM? if he is good enough he will play, he needs to light it up on loan if not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Hojbjerg....to help us away from home and help McGinn, when it gets a bit sticky. just a bit of steel in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: Also having a quick think about what other teams around us do in the 80th minute when their CM starts to tire on a yellow card Man city - bring on 100 cap 4 CL winner kovacic... That's why they win the league, we can't do that Arsenal - jorginho again we can't do that, or fabio vieira which is where I hope we can try and emulate but they also took a gamble with lokongo which didn't pay off Liverpool - endo who I would say is of the same ilk as dendoncker, then gravenberch, elliot, Jones and next season carvalho which again is where I think we should be looking, they've also got bacjetic coming through the youth set up (and check out Liverpool not spending money again) Spurs - oliver skipp... Newcastle - longstaff or miley Man Utd - mainoo So firstly when you look around dendoncker isn't that bad as an option, lots of exaggeration as to how bad he is for what he is and secondly I'd like to build like Liverpool, theyve got a couple of guys who will only get better, we've got tim who I hope comes good but I don't see it yet So I like the Gloukh link earlier in the week, gourna douath at salzburg too, that's where I think we should be shopping, £20m 20 year old at CM and RB for me please Absolutely bang on the Money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Wonder if we'll be among the clubs looking at Joshua Zirkzee in January (or the summer). He's coming into his own now and from what little I've seen he looks great. Bayern supposed to have a buy back clause thou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 We're at that point now where we need to either look at high potential youngsters, or players that will cost a lot of money to improve the team. I look through the team and, other than RB, can't really see anywhere where we could strengthen without spending £50m+. I'm not saying we wouldn't do that, but who do you replace? We've still got Buendia and Mings to come back as well, plus Ramsey to get up to speed. This is where links to the likes of Alex Baena make a bit more sense as they probably won't expect to start straight away, but have the potential to break through over the next season or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 This would still be my ideal window when factoring in quality & value for money. Fantasy stuff of course. Nico Williams €47m release clause (LW) Arnau Martinez €20m release clause (RB) Serhou Guirassy €17.5m release clause (FW) Guido Rodriguez expiring contract (DCM) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 hours ago, TRO said: Hojbjerg....to help us away from home and help McGinn, when it gets a bit sticky. just a bit of steel in the squad. I’ve always like him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 56 minutes ago, sne said: This would still be my ideal window when factoring in quality & value for money. Fantasy stuff of course. Nico Williams €47m release clause (LW) Arnau Martinez €20m release clause (RB) Serhou Guirassy €17.5m release clause (FW) Guido Rodriguez expiring contract (DCM) I dont want Guirassy as I really want him to beat Kane to the Golden Boot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, Zatman said: I dont want Guirassy as I really want him to beat Kane to the Golden Boot Scoring loads this season but I don't want him. His last 5 years is 11,9,10,9,3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 12 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: Rice? That's come from West Ham. Now you making stuff up Who won the conference league? He is also an England regular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Really miss someone who can break a team down when they put 11 in box. Buendia is closest we have but obvs is out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 minute ago, HeyAnty said: Really miss someone who can break a team down when they put 11 in box. Buendia is closest we have but obvs is out ye, we need a top notch no.10 who can break teams down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted December 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2023 Top class RB needed really. Then anything else (poss DM, poss 10, deffo GK) is a bonus. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieVillan Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Based on today, I would say we need another centremid, as McGinn just didn’t look comfortable there, and it also negates his main strength of playing in one of the roles further forward. I wonder if we could get Calvin-Phillips. Lots of talk Newcastle are after him (on loan), but I reckon we would be pretty attractive right now. I actually think we are covered in other position if we get another centre-mid, as with McGinn and Bailey as right wing options, we don’t need to ever use Cash at right back again! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 4 hours ago, sne said: This would still be my ideal window when factoring in quality & value for money. Fantasy stuff of course. Nico Williams €47m release clause (LW) Arnau Martinez €20m release clause (RB) Serhou Guirassy €17.5m release clause (FW) Guido Rodriguez expiring contract (DCM) Sacha Boey might also be a good value shout from Galatasary at right back 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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