nick76 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, duke313 said: I thought that ship had sailed? Didn't we sign Diaby because he wanted to stay in Bilbao? Yep but a few fans keep mentioning him as a further purchase. I don’t think either brother is going to leave there and this just seems to further support that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 5 hours ago, CVByrne said: We need to make a big player sale in summer to give us spending power. Unless moving on likes of Dendonker, Chambers, Traore and end of Lenglet's loan free's up enough. I think Digne will move on also, hopefully a fee for Sanson. Maybe if Tim goes on loan and impresses we can do a sale with buy back also. Remember next season we've 80% squad cost cap in Europe, this seas it was 90%. So we've new issues and that will impact our transfer business. Dont get this, we've sold Chuckwumeka, Philogene, Archer & Ramsey from the academy in the last 15 months for about £55m. Surely with the extra games in Europe, revenue will be up substantially? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 hours ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: People talking about potential sales: how much would we need to raise for FFP? Or are there other ways we can offset it? Cook the books like Man City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 14 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Cannot tell you how much I detest the phrase "pure profit". Think I paid for a dance in Amsterdam once from a girl called Pure Profit. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Think I paid for a dance in Amsterdam once from a girl called Pure Profit. Did you leave a deposit? Do a bit of double entry? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 If we could improve from our position of strength that would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: If we could improve from our position of strength that would be great Yep I agree, it’s what all the best teams do. We are more attractive to higher quality players and within shooting distance of a CL place at the end of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tomaszk said: "Profit" is fine. It's just a horrible phrase that has really boomed the last few years. Funnily enough when people use it, it's not even 100% profit. Ie buying a player for £10 mill and selling for £20 mill is not £10mill "pure" profit due to wages, agent fees, and loyalty bonuses etc and when using it in reference to FFP, usually the last thing it is is profit. Edited November 28, 2023 by Adman Free will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 7 hours ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: People talking about potential sales: how much would we need to raise for FFP? Or are there other ways we can offset it? pffft , just buy who we want , win the league by 11 points and take the 10 point penalty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I wonder what his number 1 concern is that he wants to nail in the transfer window. There must be 1 position/player that hes desperate to get sorted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Adman said: I wonder what his number 1 concern is that he wants to nail in the transfer window. There must be 1 position/player that hes desperate to get sorted... I wouldn't be surprised if he signs no one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 15 hours ago, MWARLEY2 said: Gregg Evans and Dan Bardell saying that Villa are fine for FFP but don't expect any signings in Jan. Gregg still saying that we will have to sell at some point to generate funds. I think he was saying, more likely to do that, to keep our powder dry for the summer....If we make a champions league place, it will influence the type of level of player, we can attract. There are many feasible views to it.....I guess it all depends on who is available. I would think the Everton scenario, has spooked many clubs.....I guess they will be looking at the books from more angles than VAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 28, 2023 19 minutes ago, TRO said: I wouldn't be surprised if he signs no one. I would. Now is the time to attract good players, while we are in the ascendancy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 minute ago, mjmooney said: I would. Now is the time to attract good players, while we are in the ascendancy. I get that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Folski said: Dont get this, we've sold Chuckwumeka, Philogene, Archer & Ramsey from the academy in the last 15 months for about £55m. Surely with the extra games in Europe, revenue will be up substantially? But the % of revenue we are allowed use for FFP is decreasing. Under Premier League rules we can run a £100m loss (after exclusions) Under UEFA rules not only are we not able to run a loss based in squad cost we have to run a profit. So when you realise the scale of the changes by being in Europe you see why it's getting tougher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 How many players do we have with real resale value to fund more purchases though? Some of the dross will be sold but I'm not well versed in the FPP-ness of any value coming from selling Sanson, Dendoncker, etc. Then you start looking at some of the higher value names. Luiz, Kamara, Watkins, JJ, Konsa, McGinn, Bailey running down his contract. If we do end up qualifying for UCL, that means most of their form will have been good and will demand high values if someone is willing to buy. You're looking at something like 80M+ for either Luiz or Watkins. JJ and Kamara as young talents, you could see in the 30-40m+ range. Some hard questions this summer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, TRO said: I wouldn't be surprised if he signs no one. I think his ambition is too big to be happy with as is. He wants to keep improving and this will Monchi’s first proper transfer window (although not the main window) including time to prepare for it. It all depends if the players he wants are available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 49 minutes ago, DJBOB said: JJ and Kamara as young talents, you could see in the 30-40m+ range. JJ for 30-40m? We would be wanting significantly more than that surely? Palmer and Gordon went for £40m with far far less experience in the PL…not that we’d sell either. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, nick76 said: I think his ambition is too big to be happy with as is. He wants to keep improving and this will Monchi’s first proper transfer window (although not the main window) including time to prepare for it. It all depends if the players he wants are available. while he see's elements to improve on , I don't think he will ever be happy......because he is driver, always seeking improvement, its his quest.....He's like Pep and Klopp. We inevitably won't be as demanding, because we are so grateful for the improvement so far( we are fans its our entertainment)....but we can still talk about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Spurious link to Frimpong again today, apparently the release clause in new contract is 37 million. Wonder if they were doing each other a favour with recently signed new contract? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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