Jas10 Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ender4 said: Outside the top 6 and Newcastle, has any of the other 13 teams EVER had a transfer for £40m? Id even ask has any Spanish team apart from Barcelona and Real Madrid broken £40m? Has any French club apart from PSG? Has any German club apart from Bayern? Id say that £40m is a massive crazy transfer fee and extremely rare outside Champions League clubs. You know your stuff! I just meant that 40m isn’t seen as a mental amount of money in the crazy football/PL world these days but when you’re talking about the level of clubs that spend that sort of money… I see your point. Mind you, the likes of Spurs (who I believe we are looking to overtake/replace) and West Ham have actually spent big too.. on players such as a Ndombele, Richarlison, Romero, Haller, Paqueta etc to name a few. Maddison now too. Wolves splashed out heavily on Cunha and Nunes… and where are they? Edited June 30, 2023 by Jas10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, ender4 said: Outside the top 6 and Newcastle, has any of the other 13 teams EVER had a transfer for £40m? Id even ask has any Spanish team apart from Barcelona and Real Madrid broken £40m? Has any French club apart from PSG? Has any German club apart from Bayern? Id say that £40m is a massive crazy transfer fee and extremely rare outside Champions League clubs. Everton - Sigurdsson Forest - Gibbs-White West Ham - Haller Wolves - Nunes All these players either cost their teams over 40m or, in the case of Gibbs-White, will do so if they meet expectations So over half the league have broke the 40m mark. It is still crazy mind 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Jas10 said: It’s a great debate to have… and I agree on the overrated and overpriced point, with Mount as an example. I think it’s great that we aren’t taking a restrictive approach, it’s easy to burn money on PL or British players and the English tax is very real… best avoided. We have a manager and sporting director with a vast amount of knowledge, expertise and nous who have competed in games and seen so many players, so much talent, all over the world. Monchi has an extensive scouting network and contacts too. I’m confident that we will be scouring the globe for the best combinations of talent and value (that’s not excluding “home based” players, but we won’t be narrowly focussed on them - what a deal Tielemans was) and we probably already have an extensive list of targets and alternatives. As far as how attractive we are as a club… I think it’s quite considerable. Before Unai even arrived, we managed to attract Carlos and Kamara (pretty major coups for where we were at as a club) but now we have one of the best managers around, one of the most respected sporting directors, an exciting and ambitious project and… we showed our quality (under Unai) in a fairly short period of time (not a complete season). I don’t believe that too many decents player with intelligence would look at us too negatively or as “beneath them… It won’t be easy, but certainly not impossible. The fact we’ve manage to sign Pau Torres will turn plenty of heads too… The main allure is our manager though and he has the track record and histories to back up his reputation… I agree on all points mate. What I would say about British tax though, is that any transfer is a risk of course, Fernando Torres going from prime Ronaldo at Liverpool to pound land Samatta at Chelsea shows that. But generally clubs feel like they can lower the risk of failure by signing players that have shown that they can be effective in PL. There are a million examples to back that up, and a million examples to prove that’s nonsense. But I understand the thought process. Edited June 30, 2023 by av1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 Everton spent huge amounts on players like Sigurdsson… Leicester on Tielemans Spurs spent big again on Porro… Quite a few examples really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, picicata said: Everton - Sigurdsson Forest - Gibbs-White West Ham - Haller Wolves - Nunes All these players either cost their teams over 40m or, in the case of Gibbs-White, will do so if they meet expectations So over half the league have broke the 40m mark. It is still crazy mind Oh I forgot Gibbs-White! CRAZY FEE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, ender4 said: Outside the top 6 and Newcastle, has any of the other 13 teams EVER had a transfer for £40m? Id even ask has any Spanish team apart from Barcelona and Real Madrid broken £40m? Has any French club apart from PSG? Has any German club apart from Bayern? Id say that £40m is a massive crazy transfer fee and extremely rare outside Champions League clubs. Atletico on Diego Costa, Joao Felix… Sure there are other examples too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachboys1 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, mickjacobjr said: If Greg Evans is anything to go by on 1874 podcast last night it’s no what did evans say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 If the right player is available then yes. Weirdly, we do seem to get some bargains! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjacobjr Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 hours ago, beachboys1 said: what did evans say Saying we are close to breaking ffp so negative on the podcast last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Jas10 said: Those figures are according to transfermarkt, a bit different according to other sources. Seen £34.5m for Buendia elsewhere. £28m for Bailey. Probably with/without add ons. Transfermarkt isn't reliable for player valuations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Transfermarkt isn't reliable for player valuations. Yeah but the figures I shared aren’t valuations, they’re the transfer fees paid and Buendia is our record signing so far. Probably 38m total, 34+ add ons. But if you mean the same, what’s a better source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 6 hours ago, ender4 said: Outside the top 6 and Newcastle, has any of the other 13 teams EVER had a transfer for £40m? Id even ask has any Spanish team apart from Barcelona and Real Madrid broken £40m? Has any French club apart from PSG? Has any German club apart from Bayern? Id say that £40m is a massive crazy transfer fee and extremely rare outside Champions League clubs. Atletico madrid have done it 3 times. They've even topped £100m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Our record fee is comparatively low. I imagine we'll break it on at least 1 player this window if we have ambitions of cracking the top 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 I want the right players, the less amount we get them the better. Would give us chance to improve more each window. Saying that, I’d be happy to get the likes of Nico Williams. But we have to be careful. Having Emery an Monchi should make us relaxed to be honest, but we’ve seen really bad transfers during the years and many overpriced players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Keyblade said: Our record fee is comparatively low. I imagine we'll break it on at least 1 player this window if we have ambitions of cracking the top 5. Oh come now it's the big 7. Skybet said so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 13 hours ago, Jas10 said: You know your stuff! I just meant that 40m isn’t seen as a mental amount of money in the crazy football/PL world these days but when you’re talking about the level of clubs that spend that sort of money… I see your point. Mind you, the likes of Spurs (who I believe we are looking to overtake/replace) and West Ham have actually spent big too.. on players such as a Ndombele, Richarlison, Romero, Haller, Paqueta etc to name a few. Maddison now too. Wolves splashed out heavily on Cunha and Nunes… and where are they? It's not seen as a crazy amount in the PL, but it really is elsewhere. Richarlison's move to Spurs is (apparently) the 77th most expensive transfer of all time. Think about the sheer volume of football transfers that happen all over the World and then note that this one, which was for a large fee but not seen as crazy big, was the 77th most expensive ever. We just live in an absolute bubble in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkiller1981 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 29 minutes ago, bobzy said: It's not seen as a crazy amount in the PL, but it really is elsewhere. Richarlison's move to Spurs is (apparently) the 77th most expensive transfer of all time. Think about the sheer volume of football transfers that happen all over the World and then note that this one, which was for a large fee but not seen as crazy big, was the 77th most expensive ever. We just live in an absolute bubble in this country. And if all the add ins are met it will be almost double what we are paying for pau Torres just for a bit of perspective and I know they play in different positions but if you asked me would I be excited by us signing richarlison my honest answer would he no not really. He is an average player with a bit of an attitude problem and ability in his own head that doesn’t equal what he does on the pitch even if he is brazils starting centre forward. Am I excited about Torres? Yes absolutely because I’ve seen him play and have a decent idea of what we are getting and it improves the starting 11 therefore the wider squad. and on the subject of transfer fees I think we will go big once in this window just don’t know who but I also wouldn’t be surprised if we sighed Ferran Torres on loan instead so I’m sat nicely on the fence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 1 hour ago, bobzy said: It's not seen as a crazy amount in the PL, but it really is elsewhere. Richarlison's move to Spurs is (apparently) the 77th most expensive transfer of all time. Think about the sheer volume of football transfers that happen all over the World and then note that this one, which was for a large fee but not seen as crazy big, was the 77th most expensive ever. We just live in an absolute bubble in this country. Everton paid £50m for Richarlison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman22 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Speaking of record signings (but slightly off topic) we have just signed Leicester’s record signing on a free in Tielemans. Signed for 35m in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 12 hours ago, mickjacobjr said: Saying we are close to breaking ffp so negative on the podcast last night Doesn’t really add up when Emery/Monchi keep on referring to the ‘project’ they’ve taken on. They’re not going to be enticed here by the prospect of fishing about for free transfers. Also as great a signing as Pau Torres is, there’s much more pressing needs in the attacking areas so if we’ve blown the whole kitty on him that’s not too clever. I reckon we’ll break the Buendia record twice this summer. Striker and winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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