Jas10 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, Aston_Villan4 said: What happened to this bad boy? Fake, n the barsteward who mocked it up got a kick out of everyone’s reactions and fooling them all… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 6 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Fake, n the barsteward who mocked it up got a kick out of everyone’s reactions and fooling them all… It's fake but highly likely what we will end up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 (edited) 7 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: It's fake but highly likely what we will end up with. 1 hour ago, Aston_Villan4 said: What happened to this bad boy? 57 minutes ago, PeterSw said: Personally think that this is what we will end up with Forget about it Edited May 11 by Jas10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 16 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Forget about it Man. I was so excited about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 9 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: It's sad that the new badge just doesn't look very nice because literally everything else seems like it's going to be so, so cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted May 11 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted May 11 3 hours ago, useless said: Most of the moanng is mob mentality and playing to the gallery, if the new badge was really as bad as some are making it out there would be protests against it as there were with the Leeds badge, and watch what happens, it will be unveiled talked about for a few days maybe a few weeks, and then it will be for the most part forgotten about, no one will be bothered how it looks, beyond a fleeting thought, as happens every single year with new kits, people will just get used it, as always with this kind of thing I can assure you that I’m moaning because the badge is **** crap. It’s nothing to do with mob mentality I actually think people are so bored with the badge stuff that this “new” one will get a much milder reception. People are sick of it so they’ll just accept it. If we’d heard nothing and they suddenly unveiled this as the new badge there would be uproar. It’s absolutely shit 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Ok, I do like the new shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deano & Dalian's Umbrella Posted May 11 Popular Post Share Posted May 11 I like how Heck is doing a slow reveal on social media for young people and a slow reveal on walls for old people. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted May 11 Author VT Supporter Share Posted May 11 If 'Prepared' is back in the crest then at least it's not one of the designs we've seen already, though I don't expect it to be much different. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 11 Popular Post Share Posted May 11 (edited) As annoyed as everyone is, I have a feeling that the full brand kit roll out is going to be very nice in the end. Maybe not necessarily one element, but how it's all put together. Edited May 11 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 2 hours ago, Deano & Dalian's Umbrella said: I like how Heck is doing a slow reveal on social media for young people and a slow reveal on walls for old people. #onbrand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano & Dalian's Umbrella Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: #onbrand #onAwall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingers Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 14 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I can assure you that I’m moaning because the badge is **** crap. It’s nothing to do with mob mentality I actually think people are so bored with the badge stuff that this “new” one will get a much milder reception. People are sick of it so they’ll just accept it. If we’d heard nothing and they suddenly unveiled this as the new badge there would be uproar. It’s absolutely shit I agree 100% The new badge is very poor, for the variety of reasons mentioned here over 256 pages and elsewhere. However it seems that they are squeezing it through the 'process' with minimal changes to design and colour, to bypass true consultation - I can see why they would take this approach, but it seems so shortsighted and half baked. Following the discontent in January, they have sat on it and are waiting until (hopefully) UCL is confirmed, to release it, and reduce the backlash. Its on the walls, undoubtedly on the kit, and its gonna be a lot more difficult to backtrack. So Mr Heck thinks he wins, but it could have been such a better rebrand. He releases a video with Gabby, but who does it fool? Half statements, "keep the holte" as it is etc etc. He might have brought in some great increases in revenue, but he is missing so many easy wins with the fans, to really get everything moving 100% in the right direction. I for one, won't be rushing out to spend my money on anything with this terrible badge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 11 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: As annoyed as everyone is, I have a feeling that the full brand kit roll out is going to be very nice in the end. Maybe not necessarily one element, but how it's all put together. I hope but I’m in the wait and see category at the moment. Just hope they have some old heads around that makes sure it’s not controversial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingers Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) Dear Mr Heck, I don't like your double claret and white border (against a claret shirt?!?) or the shape of your shield, but it seems YOU have decided, without consulting us............ ........but, its not too late to salvage something from this mess.......x Edited May 12 by Ingers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) TBH this is a tweak to the Lerner ‘shield’ badge rather than a change. The round badge on the shirts this season is a change. Should the club need to consult about this sort of thing? Sometimes it feels as though as fans we expect everything. Sure, I understand a change like Cardiff City’s (changing the home kit from blue to red and the crest from a bluebird to a red dragon) would expect some consultation. But this doesn’t look much like a radical change in direction that ought to upset anyone, as you are just never going to satisfy everyone, there will always be vocal dissenters. Edited May 12 by thunderball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted May 12 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted May 12 The club have consulted. I don’t really know why people keep going back to this. They’ve put out two surveys to thousands of fans and incorporated the results into the new badge. Whether we hate the outcome or not, I imagine that’s more enough to satisfy the “consultation” requirements 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: The club have consulted. I don’t really know why people keep going back to this. Because they did the opposite to some of the answers We voted for a claret and blue badge and ended up with blue and **** yellow again. The consultation process also just generally leaves a bad taste in the mouth when we were asked leading questions about a new badge they'd already decided on, with no way at all to express "actually mate, we'll keep the one we voted for this time last year". I suspect you're right that they've done enough to not fall foul of the requirements though, which I think were more designed to prevent a Hull Tigers/Cardiff colour change than to prevent a club going wild in MS Paint for their branding. I do however remain indignant at a "consultation" process that was clearly a box-ticking exercise to arrive at the conclusion they'd already decided - up to and including "consulting" the FCG, pretending there was an opportunity for feedback when the trademark was either already submitted or done so within hours. Edited May 12 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThunderPower_14 Posted May 12 Popular Post Share Posted May 12 (edited) They can't possibly satisfy people with any sort of consultation process at this point. We've had too much fan input, a lot of which was line ball in terms of vote and other stuff which contradicts previous fan consultation. Now the fans have too much expectation that they'll get input and also that previous fan consultation is sacrosanct. It's design by committee that has ruined our badges for 17 years. Next time we do this, if the fan consultation involves any sort of survey questions about badge elements, we'll end up with another below par badge. Fan consultation should be done at the very start of the process and should be about themes and feelings only. Not elements. This badge isn't bad because we failed to consult, this badge is bad because it got swept up in cost cutting. Which begs the question, why change the badge at all from the most recent iteration of the Lerner badge? Edited May 12 by ThunderPower_14 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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