villaglint Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: We did. It got spanked on Bailey, Ings and Buendia IIRC. Sure I remember reading that Brentford game when we one 4-0 was first game they all started together. Not sure if they played too many more before Ings left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Awol Posted June 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I'm not sure about that. I'm pretty sure we had a transfer budget before the sale of Jack, and I'm sure this was noted ot mentioned in reports at the time as well. Remember a few podcasts at the time with properly FFP informed experts saying that the money for Jack was pure profit and gave us huge leeway to spend if it was done over the following three seasons. Buendia was originally brought in to play with Grealish not replace him, Ings was a what, 15 million net loss? and Bailey’s price was amortised across his contract. As @thabucks helpfully posted our net spend over the past two seasons was minimal, so we may be legally able to push the boat right out. Emery has been promised good money to spend, Monchi hasn’t come to work on a shoestring, and the owners are massively ambitious. It all points to a big spend this summer as Emery gets to build his own squad (and of course we will raise some money from outgoings). 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 31 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I'm not sure about that. I'm pretty sure we had a transfer budget before the sale of Jack, and I'm sure this was noted ot mentioned in reports at the time as well. This is correct, Grealish money was going to be given to Gerrard. Fortunately they didn't trust him with it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Be good to see how Yeremy Pino performs tonight… Same age and position as Williams and Emery knows him well. Cheeky double deal with Pau Torres 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, thabucks said: Aston Villa: £-259.84m23/24: ??? 22/23: £-39.44m (7th)21/22: £-2.39m (14th)20/21: £-84.25m (11th)19/20: £-133.76m (17th) … Just over £40mill past two seasons This is closer to reality. Also don't forget ask that the grealish and chukwumeka money goes in the accounts immediately in full (plus any net sales) , while the total money spent on players is spread evenly year on year across the life of each player contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, thabucks said: Be good to see how Yeremy Pino performs tonight… Same age and position as Williams and Emery knows him well. Cheeky double deal with Pau Torres Show of faith in the lad that he’s starting for Spain. I wonder if we’re interested? One things for sure, Villareal are clearly a well run club. They’ve got a plethora of good young players - Baena, Chukwueze, Jackson, Pino. Throw that in with some more experience players like Lo Celso, Torres and Foyth and you can see why they do well. Maybe someone who watches them more could tell me who the best of the bunch is! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, thabucks said: Be good to see how Yeremy Pino performs tonight… Same age and position as Williams and Emery knows him well. Cheeky double deal with Pau Torres How Cheeky? £50m cheeky? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Delphinho123 said: Show of faith in the lad that he’s starting for Spain. I wonder if we’re interested? One things for sure, Villareal are clearly a well run club. They’ve got a plethora of good young players - Baena, Chukwueze, Jackson, Pino. Throw that in with some more experience players like Lo Celso, Torres and Foyth and you can see why they do well. Maybe someone who watches them more could tell me who the best of the bunch is! Easily Pino. 20 years old and already 10 caps for Spain. He’s got a very bright future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 35 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: Yes do you? I most certainly do, I check with our resident accountants just the other day who said we have 85m of the ffp limit left. Amortise that over 5 years it’s 425m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, markc said: Does anything stop them from that. Because, if that's allowed what the stops the Saudi's buying someone like Matt Target or any other Newcastle player/s for stupid way over the top transfer fees just to boost Newcastle's FFP. You could ask the same question about V-Sports. I suspect that there are no official rules at the moment - however, if the PL suspected that it was being done for improper reasons then I assume that the trade could be flagged and treated under existing international fraud / money laundering laws? It might be a tough one to prove (as player values can fluctuate quite wildly due to form / injury / etc). The worry is that a club tries it and as a result UEFA or FIFA look to ban multiple ownerships - which would stuff us from a V-Sports perspective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: This is closer to reality. Also don't forget ask that the grealish and chukwumeka money goes in the accounts immediately in full (plus any net sales) , while the total money spent on players is spread evenly year on year across the life of each player contract. Indeed real losses aren’t FFP losses, we are lucky our owners are so generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, paul514 said: Indeed real losses aren’t FFP losses, we are lucky our owners are so generous. What’s a real loss ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: This is correct, Grealish money was going to be given to Gerrard. Fortunately they didn't trust him with it. Thank 'McGrath" for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) I thought we had been linked with loads of players when i saw the thread was hot but sadly its just all about FFP.... Meh. Edited June 18, 2023 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Awol said: Okay, so you don’t have any idea what we can and can’t spend this summer. I just wanted to confirm that was the case and you weren’t working from any factual / informed position. Cheers. Check back in when we haven't spent £200m on players at the end of August. It's not fifa or football manager. It won't happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: Check back in when we haven't spent £200m on players at the end of August. It's not fifa or football manager. It won't happen. Failed at FFP so moved on to fortune telling? Limitless talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Awol said: Failed at FFP so moved on to fortune telling? Limitless talent. We shall see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 55 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: What’s a real loss ? When you actually lose money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) Ainsley Maitland-Niles, Oxlaide, and Rodrigo next in? Rodrigo I would really understand that signing, is on massive wages at Leeds, their fans don't rate him all that much, did enough last season goals scoring wise to not go down as a disaster signing, but over the course of his spell there hasn't been great at all, would feel like undoing the good work we did in getting a fee for Ings. Oxlade I think is a good player when fit but is hardly ever fit, just have to see how it goes. Maitland-Niles could be a canny Ash Young replacement, can play both fullback positions, wing-back, and in central midfield, could probably also play the hybrid midfielder/winger role that Emery sometimes has McGinn or Ramsey playing. I wouldn't be over the moon with any of them but lets see how the linked trio do if they do sign . Edited June 18, 2023 by useless 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 35 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: Check back in when we haven't spent £200m on players at the end of August. It's not fifa or football manager. It won't happen. Scenes when we spend 199.93 million and Pissflaps wins! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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