PeterSw Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Barnes would be a great squad option if the price is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Beastmix said: Barnes is a quality player, playing is a dreadful team. Stick him in some random southern european team's squad and change his name to Javier Barnez and some fans would be on their knees for the board to sign them up. wouldnt want him if his name was Javier Barnez. Call him Ashlado Barninho and im 100% on board tho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teale's 'tache Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, duke313 said: Never heard of him. Seems he used to play for Man U youth team. Yeah, I saw that, wonder if maybe he'd be classified as homegrown in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adbo9 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, PeterSw said: Barnes would be a great squad option if the price is right. Yeah, I like Barnes, also, proven, should hit the ground running from Day 1 as well..... give us that option of pace, width and goals from wide, can drop in either side or even centrally - think hed fit nicely.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Adbo9 said: Yeah, I like Barnes, also, proven, should hit the ground running from Day 1 as well..... give us that option of pace, width and goals from wide, can drop in either side or even centrally - think hed fit nicely.......... Hes got 12 premier league goals this season in a relegation type team. It's more goal output than all our midfielders/forwards bar Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Harvey Barnes is a brilliant player but I'm not sure where a left sided winger plays under Unai's formation. Unless he tweaks it ofc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 minute ago, turvontour said: Hes got 12 premier league goals this season in a relegation type team. It's more goal output than all our midfielders/forwards bar Watkins. But where does he fit in our team? Not sure he could play that deeper left sided role Ramsey plays, and not sure he'd be as effective on the right. We'd have to change our system to accommodate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 minute ago, KAZZAM said: Harvey Barnes is a brilliant player but I'm not sure where a left sided winger plays under Unai's formation. Unless he tweaks it ofc. Considering Gerrard binned off the concept of wingers outside of Bailey I don't think we can be 100% that the set-up will remain absolutely the same and that there isn't a place for a naturally left-sided player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adbo9 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, KAZZAM said: Harvey Barnes is a brilliant player but I'm not sure where a left sided winger plays under Unai's formation. Unless he tweaks it ofc. my thought is he brings something to the group we havent got - he wont play every game, but i think hed play predominantly off the left, or come in to play in and around watkins for some games Also, when we have the personnel, Unai could change things up for certain games - he plays the way we play now as those are the players hes got - he wants to be flexible for certain games Barnes would find a place and wed find a place for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 15 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: Let’s play a game! Budget/value/wages aren’t an issue. They’re immaterial for the purpose of this exercise. You’ve got 4 to pick. Who are you choosing… P. Torres Lee Kang In F. Torres M. Asensio P. Goncalves H. Barnes M. Ugarte Guendouzi N. Williams D. Ceballos Lo Celso A. Buena M. Merino Y. Pino (I’m sure I’ve forgotten more)… If I had to choose based purely on your list, and those we've been linked to: 1. Matteo Guendouzi - Want above all else. I don't think there's a better squad fit of a player out there right now. Just increases the options and quality of squad depth in 3 different positions with 1 signing. 2. Nico Williams - Not even 21 yet. Could, could, become elite. Think he has all the attributes to thrive in the Premier League. Could play either the right sided midfield or withdrawn/right sided striker role. 3. Aaron Wan Bissaka - The "island" right back that I believe Emery wants in his system. Entrust him in 1v1 situations which he will be a lot of the time with the players in front of him on the right side being. I feel this is slightly harsh on Cash though. It'll be interesting to see what happens at this position in the summer. 4. Lee Kang-In. This could've been Goncalves or Alberto Moleiro. Just another forward minded player who is good at progressing the ball either via passing or dribbling, who still has room to develop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) I think we are looking at more technically minded, dynamic wingers who can play across the wings. Kang-in Lee can play out wide (though mostly as a left winger) or as a 10, Nico Williams can play on the right or cut inside. I imagine we will be looking at more versatile players to suit specific roles Unai wants. Barnes strikes me as for all his ability someone who is a square peg in our system. Too one dimensional positionally. Edited May 25, 2023 by The_Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicRic Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Quick question Harvey Barnes or Ferran Torres as some have stated torres isn’t that good and in the same breath saying barnes is decent. Personally im not that excited by barnes, id like us to sign someone that id feel confident will push us into that top 5 in the new season , not saying barnes isn’t great but when i play man citys and united i want to feel charged up and ready to go with confidence throughout the whole team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adbo9 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, RicRic said: Quick question Harvey Barnes or Ferran Torres as some have stated torres isn’t that good and in the same breath saying barnes is decent. Personally im not that excited by barnes, id like us to sign someone that id feel confident will push us into that top 5 in the new season , not saying barnes isn’t great but when i play man citys and united i want to feel charged up and ready to go with confidence throughout the whole team Torres - really good player, much higher ceiling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Really not excited by Barnes, and although I’m relatively indifferent on Torres, he’d be a far better signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, RicRic said: Quick question Harvey Barnes or Ferran Torres as some have stated torres isn’t that good and in the same breath saying barnes is decent. Personally im not that excited by barnes, id like us to sign someone that id feel confident will push us into that top 5 in the new season , not saying barnes isn’t great but when i play man citys and united i want to feel charged up and ready to go with confidence throughout the whole team Harvey Barnes - 25 years old, 1 international cap, 0 goals Ferran Torres - 23 years old, 35 international caps, 15 goals I don't even know how this is a question... But then people say that 12 goals in 39 PL matches is exceptional but 9 goals in 28 is bang average. Before anyone says but Barnes has scored 12 for a team that are probably going to get relegated - just remember that Leicester and Villa have scored the exact same number of goals this season. Leicester's issue all season has been their defence (they have conceded 22 more goals than us - which is 50% more) not their attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, Adbo9 said: Torres - really good player, much higher ceiling All day. Not even close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, PeterSw said: Barnes would be a great squad option if the price is right. I don't agree because I don't see how he fits into our system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicRic Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, allani said: Harvey Barnes - 25 years old, 1 international cap, 0 goals Ferran Torres - 23 years old, 35 international caps, 15 goals I don't even know how this is a question... But then people say that 12 goals in 39 PL matches is exceptional but 9 goals in 28 is bang average. Before anyone says but Barnes has scored 12 for a team that are probably going to get relegated - just remember that Leicester and Villa have scored the exact same number of goals this season. Leicester's issue all season has been their defence (they have conceded 22 more goals than us - which is 50% more) not their attack. If its a case of silly question on my behalf, just to point i have stated in there that some have said barnes and no to Ferran , so wanted to get an overview on who everyone would prefer. And yes i agree it looks a silly question as ferran is way clear of barnes in my opinion Nico Williams and Ferran Torres are the two we MUST sign for our frontline, we need to snap up both. Edited May 25, 2023 by RicRic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 hours ago, thabucks said: Leicester have been linked with Archer so could do a deal with £££ for Barnes. We cannot just buy foreign players however glamour is they sound I will be really upset if archer isn’t given a go here. also there is loads of other positions we could buy home grown in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 I'd be happy with either of them. Maybe even both considering how bad our depth is in attacking positions. Torres could fill in through the middle if Ollie got injured couldn't he? I think we need a player that can normally play off Ollie but cover up front when needed plus a winger as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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