Tom13 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 It seems at the moment that we have a number of players who are underperforming and/or frustrating regularly. I guess mid table players will always have a few weaknesses, but there's a few in our squad who are even struggling to look PL standard at the moment. If we're serious about going to the next level and gaining greater consistency, who needs shipping out? I'd like to see Cash and Digne replaced as a starting point. They limit our attacking threat so much. Cash is even poor defensively as soon as he's up against someone with a bit of trickery. Digne's touch is often so poor. One FB who can actually dribble would be a dream. I don't think Chambers is good enough to even be a squad player. Weak, rash, overrated passer. Nowhere near good enough. We need a better regular starter than Watkins. Brilliant at some things, amateurish at many others. I'd like to keep him in the squad, but simply, we need better. Another one who limits our ability to build dangerous attacks. Leon Bailey - I'm about ready to give up on him. Was willing to be patient to let him get his confidence and fitness going, in a side which actually has shape, but he is so frustrating. Runs down blind alleys, and if he does manage to spot the best option, it's often too late. Could maybe be a good impact sub for a little while, but unless there's a drastic turnaround in his level of performance, he also needs replacing in the starting XI. Buendia - you won't find a bigger fan of his than me, but his giving the ball away needs to stop. I don't want him gone just yet though - I'd give him more time as I know he's so dangerous in the final third. Thoughts? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Coutinho, Digne, maybe Cash. Into the squad players Bednarek, Nakamba probably Olsen who is probably sick of the online abuse 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Can’t really disagree with your suggestions. Add to the fact we have deadwood like Guilbert, Nakamba, Sanson and Traore on loan. It’s starting to look like an overhaul. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 Ah yeah, forgot Coutinho - said at the time - huge mistake signing him permanently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Ah yeah, forgot Coutinho - said at the time - huge mistake signing him permanently. Could you imagine the outrage on here if we hadn’t though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GingerCollins29 Posted January 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2023 If we're truly aiming to be a top 7/8 team, it would be this (top of head) so poss forgetting some squad players... Emi M - keep, starting 11 Olsen - sell Cash - keep, but as back up rb Digne - sell Young - keep, squad player Konsa - keep, back up cb Mings - keep, back up cb Carlos - keep, starting 11 Chambers - sell Benarek - terminate loan Kamara - keep, starting 11 Luiz - keep, starting 11/back up Dendoncker - sell Nakamba - sell Mcginn - keep, squad player Ramsey - keep, starting 11/back up Buendia - sell Sanson - keep, squad player Coutinho - sell Bailey - sell Traore - sell Watkins - sell Ings - sell Wesley - recall from loan, make captain and watch him fire us to the champions league 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, duke313 said: Could you imagine the outrage on here if we hadn’t though? Yeah I know, but still.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, duke313 said: Could you imagine the outrage on here if we hadn’t though? Not much in hindsight considering he would probably be now playing for Barcelona B or they would have bought him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: Wesley - recall from loan, make captain and watch him fire us to the champions league Brazilians vote Wesley as their greatest ever player ahead of Pele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Inclined to agree and i said it in a different thread... Martinez, Mings, Kamara, Luiz, Ramsey are my first teasers who can stay... The rest aren't good enough with the exception of Cash perhaps, I think he will improve. Buendia and Bailey particularly look like stinkers at the moment, both are average it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 8, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) Nicking Spoony’s post as a template 4 hours ago, Spoony said: I wouldn’t be sad to see any of the following leave: Olsen Konsa Cash McGinn Sanson Buendia Watkins Steer Chambers Augustinsson Nakamba Bednarek Coutinho Guilbert Digne Bailey Donk Start with the bold. Thank you Jed, I don’t think we would be in the Premier league without your efforts in 18/19. I don’t think Marvelous has done much wrong, he’s been an ok squad member. But he doesn’t have a future here. Callum Chambers, started well. Not sure what the hell has happened. Will remember the Leeds goal fondly and that fancy pass he did for that assist, I forget which game. Olsen, Bedbarek, Guilbert, sadly this is not meant to be. On notice and happy to see leave if there’s not a marked improvement during the remainder of the season - Sanson (bit unfair as barely played, today was a good start), Coutinho, Bailey, Digne. And then below that group it’s probably lead by Watkins but he has a bit more goodwill in the bank. Dendoncker it’s too early for me to say. For what it’s worth, I get where Spoony is coming from with this list, I wouldn’t be massively gutted about any of these going (McGinn, maybe for sentimental reasons). The players I’m bothered about are Martinez, Mings, theoretically Carlos, Luiz, Kamara, Ramsey. And to a slightly lesser extent Cash, Konsa, Buendia, McGinn and Ings. For various reasons I feel better disposed to those players, although some are easier to justify than others. Edit - forgot Ashley Young, he is welcome to stay. Edited January 8, 2023 by Mark Albrighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Always one of these threads after an unexpected loss. Don't panic, Take a deep breath and in the famous words of Lambert 'we go again'. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 It's been clear for ages now that this squad is only good enough for mid table or lower. We can't do a wholesale change, but we need better than Bailey and Buendia immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, duke313 said: Could you imagine the outrage on here if we hadn’t though? There wouldn't have been any outrage. He hardly pulled up trees here on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: There wouldn't have been any outrage. He hardly pulled up trees here on loan. I got laughed out of here for saying I wasn't thrilled with the signing (permanently) at the time tbf. Edited January 9, 2023 by Tom13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I think the more pertinent question which players would be wanted by clubs wiling to pay similar wages levels? I expect the answer to be fairly low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 The question should be who can stay? I think today's result brings a sharp focus on the sad reality that we just aren't good and we have players who, due to their ability cap or mentality deficit, drag the whole program down. Ashley Young is our best player FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Brazilians vote Wesley as their greatest ever player ahead of Pele. That is enough to justify storming the parliament. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Olsen, Chambers bednarek, agustinsson, cash, dendonker, Bailey continuo, buendia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaVilla Posted January 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2023 its easier to say who couldnt. Im not advocating selling everyone, but if the right bid came in, and we could get a replacement, the only players i would try NOT to sell are: Martinez Diego Carlos Douglas Luiz Kamara Ramsey For me, literally everyone else is "replaceable" or "sellable - for the right price". 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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