Lupinthe5th Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 On 15/12/2022 at 10:24, bannedfromHandV said: What’s the point of this thread? We already have threads for Messi and Messi v Ronaldo. Whats next, a thread about who’s the best out of Messi, John Fashanu and Ian Ormondroyd?! Messi v Ronaldo is the pointless thread. Least this one is actually comparing the true GOATS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 15/12/2022 at 09:24, Stevo985 said: Messi carried Argentina to the copa America last year and he’s pretty much carrying them to this World Cup Emi Martinez did all the work both times!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2022 I don't mind you guys voting wrong. It's Messis day and the most current option always has a clear edge. In reality, there's no-one like El Diego, and I doubt there ever will be. Messi and Pele are exceptionally good players, but Diego was in a class of his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2022 A question to very few people here, as I'm too young to have seen him myself: did Pele ever really carry Brazil to win the world cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 minute ago, AVTuco said: A question to very few people here, as I'm too young to have seen him myself: did Pele ever really carry Brazil to win the world cup? I'm not old enough but I don't think so. I do know that he had a player named Garrincha as teammate who once was voted as the 7th best player in the 1900s by FIFA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mark Albrighton Posted December 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2022 34 minutes ago, AVTuco said: A question to very few people here, as I'm too young to have seen him myself: did Pele ever really carry Brazil to win the world cup? 30 minutes ago, NoelVilla said: I'm not old enough but I don't think so. I do know that he had a player named Garrincha as teammate who once was voted as the 7th best player in the 1900s by FIFA. Don’t know too much about Garrincha, but I know his reputation. From what I’ve read, the away dressing at the Maracana Stadium in Rio de Janerio is named after Pele. The home dressing room is named after Garrincha. Make of that what you will. Although one thing about him - I’ve recently bemoaned the omnipresent term “GOAT”. Well, when Garrincha is in the discussion, it’s not unreasonable to mention goats… 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Garrincha and Pele never lost playing for Brazil. Garrincha apparently only ever lost in one game whilst playing for Brazil - his last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2022 53 minutes ago, NoelVilla said: I'm not old enough but I don't think so. I do know that he had a player named Garrincha as teammate who once was voted as the 7th best player in the 1900s by FIFA. I remember Garrincha from Pele's book. He must've been immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2022 No debate anymore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 Messi for me of course.. Best of my generation by some distance. Best over the last 2 decades. Love Pele and Maradona. I never seen them play only on the documentaries. They was magic of course and real icons of the game. I can't disrespect them. Anyone who says Pele or Maradona are the greatest footballers of all time, you can't really argue. The 3 Kinda Scary Messi who's now cemented his name has got 2-4 years left to add to his trophy and medal collection to further cement his name in this discussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I prefer to see people's all time XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 34 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: No debate anymore Why? He scored a disputed penalty and a tap in He was at fault for France equaliser, if France had won would the debate continue on one game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 As very few people on here saw Pele apart from watching a few grainy YouTube clips it's obvious he won't come top of this poll. All I can say is that they are all greats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 15/12/2022 at 01:31, juanpablosaliceband said: Brazil Ronaldo. He could have retired at the age of 21 and been remembered as one of the three greatest players of all time. Easily the best player I’ve ever seen and I just don’t see how Pele could have been as good. He could do everything I’ve seen any other player do and more. He was the true once in a lifetime talent. Pele was better believe me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 15/12/2022 at 13:44, Tegis said: One telling thing is that there are actually alternatives to Messi during his days. For Pele and Maradona during their heyday it was them.....................MASSIVE GAP..........................ANOTHER MASSIVE GAP..............................A bunch of great players There were plenty of alternatives Pele and Maradona in their playing days. It was just that they were Kings amongst princes like cruyff, Beckenbauer. Platini and best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted December 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, PaulC said: It was just that they were Kings amongst princes like cruyff, Beckenbauer. Platini and best As I said then, .....................MASSIVE GAP..........................ANOTHER MASSIVE GAP..............................A bunch of great players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupinthe5th Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, maqroll said: I prefer to see people's all time XI. -----------------Ronaldo9------------- C Ronaldo-------Zidane--------Messi --------------Xavi-------Iniesta---------- Lahm---Cannavaro--Nesta----Dani Alves -------------------Buffon-------------------- Manager: Pep Guardiola Rate it @maqroll Edited December 18, 2022 by Lupinthe5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 52 minutes ago, Zatman said: Why? He scored a disputed penalty and a tap in He was at fault for France equaliser, if France had won would the debate continue on one game Yeah he only scored 2 goals and his penalty in the shootout, nothing special. His performance throughout the tournament was top notch. Scored in every knockout game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupinthe5th Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 56 minutes ago, Zatman said: Why? He scored a disputed penalty and a tap in He was at fault for France equaliser, if France had won would the debate continue on one game Are you Piers Morgan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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