The Fun Factory Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 On 05/03/2023 at 16:28, TheMightyVillans said: still hard to believe this guy is our manager. Also crazy how young he is with those stats. If he keeps on going he could get close to 2,000 like Guy Roux from Auxerre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, KentVillan said: It makes sense I think. The games where we dominate possession are against weaker and more defensive sides, and typically we lack a bit of cutting edge to break that down. The games where we’re out possessed are against stronger sides, but also play to our attacking strengths on the counter, so tend to be more goals at both ends. The thing with Emery is he doesn’t play a “park the bus” setup when he concedes possession. It’s conceding possession with a view to scoring goals - leaving players up, full backs overlapping on the counter, etc. That’s what makes it quite interesting. The setup where we try to play on the front foot is more conventional, and less exciting tbh. That could change with a bit more quality in the front 6 but for now I don’t think we scare teams when we control possession. I think he intends to play it more like Crystal Palace when we are at home. Lots of passing along the back to draw opponents in and keep opponents from parking the bus. The problem is that we've also tended to concede first and quickly at home which is probably what drives Unai mad. Then you have no choice but to continually enter the final third against 11 men. I think you'll see that pattern emerge a lot at home with a very ho-hum start (unless we're playing one of the top sides) to kill off any fireworks in the beginning and work our way into the match against more defensive sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, BOF said: Wasn't sure where to put this, but as it kinda relates to Emery's style I'll put it here. There's a huge difference in total goals (for both sides) in the games where we out-possess our opponent versus being out-possessed. Games where we get out-possessed are absolutely bonkers games. There's an average of 2 goals per game in the 12 games where we have had more possession. Compare that with an average of 3.46 goals per game in the 13 games where we've been out-possessed. I guess when you look at the calibre of opposition holding us to less possession, it shows we're far worse at capitalising on our possession against the lesser sides than the top sides are at capitalising against us. Ho hum, just thought the discrepancy was interesting. 65% 0-2 L @ Bou 63% 1-0 W @ Sou 63% 2-4 L v Lei 60% 1-1 D @ Not 58% 1-0 W v Cry 57% 0-1 L v Wes 57% 2-1 W v Eve 56% 0-0 D @ Lee 55% 1-1 D v Wol 53% 2-0 W @ Eve 53% 2-1 W v Lee 52% 1-0 W v Sou 49% 1-3 L @ Cry 48% 1-3 L v Liv 45% 4-0 W v Bre 41% 3-1 W v MUn 41% 1-2 L @ Ars 41% 0-2 L v Che 40% 2-0 W @ Tot 40% 0-4 L @ New 39% 0-3 L @ Ful 34% 2-1 W @ Bri 33% 2-4 L v Ars 32% 1-3 L @ MCi 27% 1-1 D v MCi Does this look the same with just Emery's games? Edit: Actually I've done it myself Edited March 7, 2023 by tomsky_11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshharris12 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 We are so lucky to have this guy as our manager. I don’t get to high when we win or complain when we loose I see what he’s trying to build here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gwi1890 Posted March 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2023 I like how we’re actually becoming a possession based team rather than the eventually we’d like to become a possession based team. Any manager can hide behind the need for better players to become possession based but Emery hasn’t he’s just gone about it with what he has. It’s not so long ago we’d have less possession in matches than Southampton, Leicester, Palace and Everton. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Is it an Omen? Something wriiten in the Stars. SeVilla Villarreal Aston Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 8, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 8, 2023 21 hours ago, tomsky_11 said: Does this look the same with just Emery's games? Edit: Actually I've done it myself Yeah the pattern is the same basically. 2.5 versus 3.83. I'll take the 2.17ppg all day though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keyblade Posted March 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2023 Kind of off topic but I was reading about how Hatem Ben Arfa won a court case against PSG, and how he had a fractured relationship with Unai Emery. Apparently he mocked his attempt to speak French and undermined him on other occasions, which the rest of the squad didn't take too kindly to. Seems like Unai is universally loved by players. Oh he also said that Emery would never pass the quarter finals of the champions league. He did that with... Villarreal. They guy is just a don, constantly proving his doubters wrong and breaking the mould. You can see why he joined us. I'm sure he wants to put his last experience in England right. We're so lucky he's chosen us to do that with. We are going to reap the benefits. I wouldn't be surprise if we win the Conference League in a few years and have a deep run in the Europa League. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 47 minutes ago, BOF said: Yeah the pattern is the same basically. 2.5 versus 3.83. I'll take the 2.17ppg all day though Given the distribution of goals and the points return under Emery compared to Gerrard, I'm not sure the view that big teams capitalise on their possession over us more than we do in possession against teams below us holds up. We are doing better in terms of % of available points won and proportion of goals scored when we have more of the ball, compared with our opponents when they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Had a dream (nightmare) last night. It was all over Twitter and VT that Emery would be leaving Villa 'in a number of hours' due to a fallout with people at the club. Thank God I wake up to see it's not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Tom13 said: Had a dream (nightmare) last night. It was all over Twitter and VT that Emery would be leaving Villa 'in a number of hours' due to a fallout with people at the club. Thank God I wake up to see it's not true Thank you for proving Freud right...the Villa supporter mentality is reflected in our dreams...we have only nightmares... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 It’s starting to cut through to neutrals - I was listening to the Football Ramble today and they were saying how amazing our results have been since he came in, and Football365 had him in the top 5 or 6 best performers of the 30+ managers who have had a PL job this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Adam2003 said: It’s starting to cut through to neutrals - I was listening to the Football Ramble today and they were saying how amazing our results have been since he came in, and Football365 had him in the top 5 or 6 best performers of the 30+ managers who have had a PL job this season. The reason it may go under the radar... is because whenever we are the " featured " TV game we tend to be shite So our good performances and results go unnoticed. Plus our place in the table slightly shows a false narrative of his tenure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TRO Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, Keyblade said: Kind of off topic but I was reading about how Hatem Ben Arfa won a court case against PSG, and how he had a fractured relationship with Unai Emery. Apparently he mocked his attempt to speak French and undermined him on other occasions, which the rest of the squad didn't take too kindly to. Seems like Unai is universally loved by players. Oh he also said that Emery would never pass the quarter finals of the champions league. He did that with... Villarreal. They guy is just a don, constantly proving his doubters wrong and breaking the mould. You can see why he joined us. I'm sure he wants to put his last experience in England right. We're so lucky he's chosen us to do that with. We are going to reap the benefits. I wouldn't be surprise if we win the Conference League in a few years and have a deep run in the Europa League. I know he has only been with us for 5 minutes and they are not even his buys, I won't say his players, because he has clearly adopted them well........and already he has a win ratio, better than any permanent manager in the clubs history...that is something. I know its early days, but the signs are good. It still takes some doing in this league, to do what he has done so far. Edited March 9, 2023 by TRO 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 7 hours ago, Tom13 said: Had a dream (nightmare) last night. It was all over Twitter and VT that Emery would be leaving Villa 'in a number of hours' due to a fallout with people at the club. Thank God I wake up to see it's not true you need to stop sleeping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) On 07/03/2023 at 20:49, joshharris12 said: We are so lucky to have this guy as our manager. I don’t get to high when we win or complain when we loose I see what he’s trying to build here Yes.......but he will make mistakes, he is human. We have to accept that..... when his overall job, is brilliant. Folk could say, Thomas Franks made mistakes, playing us....but his overall work is brilliant too. Edited March 9, 2023 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Adam2003 said: It’s starting to cut through to neutrals - I was listening to the Football Ramble today and they were saying how amazing our results have been since he came in, and Football365 had him in the top 5 or 6 best performers of the 30+ managers who have had a PL job this season. He could be a Manager of the Year contender, I still believe the muppet would have got us relegated and now in about 12 games we have a big cushion over relegation and just a few points behind the medias golden team Newcastle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 17 hours ago, Zatman said: He could be a Manager of the Year contender, I still believe the muppet would have got us relegated and now in about 12 games we have a big cushion over relegation and just a few points behind the medias golden team Newcastle I like Emery, but he is nowhere near manager of the year this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Made In Aston said: I like Emery, but he is nowhere near manager of the year this season. Eddie Howe is going to be a contender why cant Unai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Hopefully,with our new summer signings U.E could be manager of the year,next year ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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