Tomaszk Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Wes said: I think we would have, if it wasn't for the £16m buyout clause in his contract that it would have cost us. We spent more than that on Bertrand Traore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post a m ole Posted September 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) win ratio/percentage is the absolute dumbest stat in all of football Edited September 8, 2022 by a m ole 3 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted September 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: West Ham showed with good coaching you can get European football, they went from relegation candidates to Europa in one season. I don’t want Gerrard, but I don’t expect us to be arsenal or Liverpool. What I do think it’s fair to expect is for us to be a competitive team on a weekly basis, I think that’s completely fair. And we’ve had ten months without that. West Ham league positions were: 14/15 12 15/16 7 16/17 11 17/18 13 18/19 10 19/20 16 20/21 6 21/22 7 They have been knocking around Mid table for ages. We weren't in the league until 19/20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, HKP90 said: West Ham league positions were: 14/15 12 15/16 7 16/17 11 17/18 13 18/19 10 19/20 16 20/21 6 21/22 7 They have been knocking around Mid table for ages. We weren't in the league until 19/20 More established in the league of course but they still jumped up 10 positions in one season due to Moyes. Wolves came from the championship and finished 7th. I believe with the right manager we have the squad for 8th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted September 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: More established in the league of course but they still jumped up 10 positions in one season due to Moyes. Wolves came from the championship and finished 7th. I believe with the right manager we have the squad for 8th Both established top 6 teams now though, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Both established top 6 teams now though, right? You’re right, but I don’t expect us to be either. I just want us to be competitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Come on Villa, stop sitting on your arses… The perfect match 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) Ambitious clubs make big decisions when they see an opportunity. Do you think Spurs would have kept Gerrard if he was their manager and had the same start we have? I don't. I'm sure we have an opportunity to bring in a manager that can have us challenging for where our squad is expected to be as opposed to managing the expectation down from 7th to 17th. Edited September 8, 2022 by jacketspuds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Ambitious clubs make big decisions when they see an opportunity. Do you think Spurs would have kept Gerrard if he was their manager and had the same start we have? I don't. I'm sure we have an opportunity to bring in a manager that can have us challenging for where our squad is expected to be as opposed to managing the expectation down from 7th to 17th. Slightly different as Levy isn't Gerrad's mate. Also we have no idea what is happening in the background, no point in sacking Gerrard if we have nobody lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Ambitious clubs make big decisions when they see an opportunity. Do you think Spurs would have kept Gerrard if he was their manager and had the same start we have? I don't. I'm sure we have an opportunity to bring in a manager that can have us challenging for where our squad is expected to be as opposed to managing the expectation down from 7th to 17th. Agreed, you have to take opportunities when they arise. Spurs is one of the best examples, they are flying with Conte. An excellent decision (does anyone seriously believe they should’ve stuck with Nuno?). Sticking with SG smacks as more of a lack of ambition than anything considering his abysmal record and dreadful performance over 10 months or so… 3 wins in 17 is it? I find it hard to agree with any fan who is ok with that or can still back the manager. I’ve been utterly drained by it… A change is required and the right one at the right time could potentially help us achieve our ambitions… rather than languishing and struggling in the bottom half for ages… I know what I’d prefer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, duke313 said: Slightly different as Levy isn't Gerrad's mate. Also we have no idea what is happening in the background, no point in sacking Gerrard if we have nobody lined up. I agree that it's different because Gerrard and Purslow have a close relationship, but it shouldn't be different. They are both professionals, with their own targets, and I would imagine Purslow will get the boot if he doesn't hit his targets. The issue we have is that Purslow has stuck Gerrard on a ridiculous salary, without the experience to justify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post a m ole Posted September 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) @tomav84 @jim firstly it ignores draws, which means ignoring potentially 38 points, although most likely somewhere between 8-14 points over the course of the season. Use points per game if you really want to look at that kind of stat. secondly and most importantly it completely ignores all context. Saying Potter has ‘only 30% win%’ as a reason to say he’s not that great is mind numbingly dumb. Roberto Di Matteo had a 57% win% at Chelsea, just two points below Jose. He then had an 8.3% win% at Villa. what does that tell you? Absolutely **** all. Edited September 8, 2022 by a m ole 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post srsmithusa Posted September 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2022 I would take Tuchel in a heartbeat. Huge upgrade. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 minute ago, srsmithusa said: I would take Tuchel in a heartbeat. Huge upgrade. The way Gerrard is going,I would take SB atm 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 26 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: I would take Tuchel in a heartbeat. Huge upgrade. Don't think he would work with Lange/Purslow very well to be honest, he is pretty outspoken. I agree he would be a massive upgrade on Gerrard, but so would Steve Bruce HAHA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted September 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, calcifer said: Don't think he would work with Lange/Purslow very well to be honest, he is pretty outspoke He seems the type to burn his bridges with the players and the board in a couple of years. That's all we need though, two years of strong progress and then we'd be in a position to go shopping at the top end of the manager market. Tuchel is part of that bracket so if it is at all possible we could get him after the Chelsea sacking we should be all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, a m ole said: But Potter’s win% will guaranteed be higher at Chelsea. Will that mean he’s suddenly any better a manager? ok - i agree that there's little point comparing win % of managers at different level of club. so yes comparing the potter win % at brighton to his likely win % at chelsea is pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAIN Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) Thomas Tuchel had a crazy record at chelsea.. 100 games played 60 wins 24 draws 16 losses Thats a 60% win ratio.. If we could just send him to anger management classes i would have him here in the morning (if he would come) Edited September 8, 2022 by OLDVILLAIN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, OLDVILLAIN said: Thomas Tuchel had a crazy record at chelsea.. 100 games played 60 wins 24 draws 16 losses Thats a 60% win ratio.. If we could just send him to anger management classes i would have him here in the morning (if he would come) But that's only 3% higher than RDM at Chelsea. Meaning he would have a 11% win rate here? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 31 minutes ago, OLDVILLAIN said: Thomas Tuchel had a crazy record at chelsea.. 100 games played 60 wins 24 draws 16 losses Thats a 60% win ratio.. If we could just send him to anger management classes i would have him here in the morning (if he would come) Roberto Di Matteo had a 57% win ratio a Chelsea and also won the CL Not saying Tuchel is as bad a coach as Di Matteo, but win % aren't a good judge of how good a manager is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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