rodders0223 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Why are people citing "what we did with Smith" as a bad thing? He got us promoted, kept us in the league, and when he couldn't take us any further he was moved on. That is exactly what we should be doing. People are always looking for a manager who is going to stay here for 20 years and win every trophy going with us. It doesn't happen. We need to recruit a manager who will take us on that next step. For us that should be making us a top half team and challenging for Europe. If he can then keep progressing us and take us into Europe and climbing the table then he stays. if he can't, then he goes and we recruit the next guy who takes us another step further. We aren't going to discover the next Arsene Wenger. People need to stop turning their noses up at managers who aren't good enough to win the league or whatever. We don't need that. Sounds like a job for big Sam if you ask me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted August 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Why are people citing "what we did with Smith" as a bad thing? He got us promoted, kept us in the league, and when he couldn't take us any further he was moved on. That is exactly what we should be doing. People are always looking for a manager who is going to stay here for 20 years and win every trophy going with us. It doesn't happen. We need to recruit a manager who will take us on that next step. For us that should be making us a top half team and challenging for Europe. If he can then keep progressing us and take us into Europe and climbing the table then he stays. if he can't, then he goes and we recruit the next guy who takes us another step further. We aren't going to discover the next Arsene Wenger. People need to stop turning their noses up at managers who aren't good enough to win the league or whatever. We don't need that. Yes, it felt harsh but necessary at the time. Bit like Southampton with Adkins. Only they then made a very good appointment, which we (most probably, but there's still a tiny chink of hope) haven't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccfcman Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Sounds like a job for big Sam if you ask me. His love child is available too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted August 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, ccfcman said: His love child is available too! Who is the other parent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 52 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: Any glimmer of truth in the rumour of the big wigs talking to Poch? well i'm sure we'll have spoken to him. But his answer was probably a no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, tinker said: That's why I would be tempted to keep him until we have a better choice of managers and a better team of football experts to pick him. We can't go on being effectively rudderless ,in football terms , at the very top of the club. I'd rather just have Critchely take over as interim rather than Gerrard manage us for another day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2022 Who decides? I mean, literally, who initiates the ending of a manager's contract? It's always seemed foggy to me. "The board decides." "Purslow tells his man." "It's up to the owners." etc etc. Can anyone offer a little insight into Villa's current process for firing a manager for those of us who've forgotten or don't know? Really haven't seen any credibly sourced journalism that indicates the two names mentioned most often as replacements are remotely interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted August 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, duke313 said: I'd rather just have Critchely take over as interim rather than Gerrard manage us for another day I wouldn't, Critchely would probably go with Gerrard anyway and leave us deeply in trouble. I see Gerrard's weaknesses, lack of experience, it maybe he turns this around at some stage this season and we could benefit from that. Or he may walk away and leave with no pay off. This is obviously subject to us not being deeply in the bottom 3 and us not having any other top class experienced options to manage us. We need to start thinking smart and not let emotions get in the way of our decisions, as I believe Purslow did, when he picked Gerrard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Tommo_b said: Any glimmer of truth in the rumour of the big wigs talking to Poch? No. Tbh I doubt the club is even looking at a new manager. It’s just a fan made echo chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted August 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2022 45 minutes ago, one_ian_taylor said: Who is the other parent? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, tinker said: I wouldn't, Critchely would probably go with Gerrard anyway and leave us deeply in trouble. I see Gerrard's weaknesses, lack of experience, it maybe he turns this around at some stage this season and we could benefit from that. Or he may walk away and leave with no pay off. This is obviously subject to us not being deeply in the bottom 3 and us not having any other top class experienced options to manage us. We need to start thinking smart and not let emotions get in the way of our decisions, as I believe Purslow did, when he picked Gerrard. Why? We still have coaches there from Smith's days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WallisFrizz Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: I don’t know what to make of this account. On the one hand he did seem to know some stuff early- the Sarr deal being off, line ups and a couple of other things I think. On the other hand, I think he knows he’s got Villa fans on strings and is enjoying every minute of it. I call BS on this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Critchley will be the temporary coach for sure - we paid what, £2m for him? He’s got an excellent resume. Would be madness to sack him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 27 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: Almost certainly made up nonsense. I choose to believe it. Its the only thing keeping me going. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSw Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Met Poch yesterday and we're apparently in for Moura today. I think it's safe to put the 'it's happening' gif on this and rename the thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: I don’t know what to make of this account. On the one hand he did seem to know some stuff early- the Sarr deal being off, line ups and a couple of other things I think. On the other hand, I think he knows he’s got Villa fans on strings and is enjoying every minute of it. I call BS on this one. Yeah agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: Yeah agreed He's also claiming nothing major in terms of either cost or fame coming our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicVillan Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 hours ago, one_ian_taylor said: Who is the other parent? A bag of gravel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, PeterSw said: Met Poch yesterday and we're apparently in for Moura today. I think it's safe to put the 'it's happening' gif on this and rename the thread I bloody love the It's Happening GIF. Although the CJ Golson has made me wary. Edited August 31, 2022 by Tom13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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