ferguson1 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Something to thank Gerrard for? I assume Gerrard recommended him and then he only signed for us because of Gerrard? Seems a real talent but so early in his development to really know how good he can be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 5, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 5, 2022 His movement and the runs he makes are really good and he took his goal well. First time I've seen him and there was lots to like. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 The good thing about him is he is already 6 ft and really wirey so plenty of growth to go through still. Very sharp and he is a proper finisher off both feet and seems willing to mix it with his opponents. We just need to wait 4 years until he is ready. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, ferguson1 said: Something to thank Gerrard for? I assume Gerrard recommended him and then he only signed for us because of Gerrard? Seems a real talent but so early in his development to really know how good he can be. and Carlos and Kamara. It never, worked, but it wasn't all bad. I hope Rory is not put off by the exit of SG. Edited November 5, 2022 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Gerrard may have helped us sign Wilson But Wilson was one of the most highly rated youth players in Scotland So club and most other clubs would have been well aware of him A lot of young Scottish players coming down to England We've signed three, Wilson, Simpson, and Smith Wilson already knew Feeney and Simpson from Scotland international games, so that probably helped As well as the fact that we have a track record for investing a lot of money into attracting some of the countries best academy level players to the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, TRO said: and Carlos and Kamara. It never, worked, but it wasn't all bad. No it wasn’t at all, but some people will say it was. Pretty sure most of the players signed by Gerrard was because of the “Gerrard factor” and the excitement of playing for him/his club. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, ferguson1 said: No it wasn’t at all, but some people will say it was. Pretty sure most of the players signed by Gerrard was because of the “Gerrard factor” and the excitement of playing for him/his club. The Unai factor would presumably be more attractive to a player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dale said: The Unai factor would presumably be more attractive to a player? Who knows? Time will tell I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Dale said: The Unai factor would presumably be more attractive to a player? You would hope so, but for slightly different reasons....Maybe Rory as a young boy,was more likely to have heard of SG than UE. Hopefully, when he see's UE's work, he will buy in. However, UE has a good record for attracting players, himself. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, TRO said: You would hope so, but for slightly different reasons....Maybe Rory as a young boy,was more likely to have heard of SG than UE. Hopefully, when he see's UE's work, he will buy in. However, UE has a good record for attracting players, himself. Exactly this. Young players will have watched their heroes and/or elite players growing up, so would understandably want to play for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post useless Posted November 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2022 Wilson was a pre-scholar when we signed him, when signing players that age who the first team manager is won't be much of a deciding factor, by the time they're ready for the first team whoever is current manager will likely have already left the club Wilson joining us will be more down to things like how other players from the academy are doing, whether we can eventually offer them a pathway to first team football, usually on loan to begin with. As I said some of his friends already being at the club probably played a bigger role in us getting him than Gerrard, and also money of course, which is what has helped us sign all these top academy products that we're bringing in to the club. most of which signed when Smith was manager, a lot of them would have got offers from 'bigger' clubs with bigger names at first team level managing them than Smith, but for a youth player that's not going to be their main concern. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, useless said: Wilson was a pre-scholar when we signed him, when signing players that age who the first team manager is won't be much of a deciding factor, by the time they're ready for the first team whoever is current manager will likely have already left the club Wilson joining us will be more down to things like how other players from the academy are doing, whether we can eventually offer them a pathway to first team football, usually on loan to begin with. As I said some of his friends already being at the club probably played a bigger role in us getting him than Gerrard, and also money of course, which is what has helped us sign all these top academy products that we're bringing in to the club. most of which signed when Smith was manager, a lot of them would have got offers from 'bigger' clubs with bigger names at first team level managing them than Smith, but for a youth player that's not going to be their main concern. fair comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I'm not saying for sure that Gerrard didn't help us to sign him, he may well have done. Ma point was just that it's not as we didn't already have a track record for signing Scottish youngsters, and also for signing some of the best academy products in the country, and beating other clubs to get those players, the likes of Feeney, Bogarde, Burchall and others would have had a lot of teams chasing them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 4 hours ago, ferguson1 said: No it wasn’t at all, but some people will say it was. Pretty sure most of the players signed by Gerrard was because of the “Gerrard factor” and the excitement of playing for him/his club. I'm sure it was but eventually it would become apparent that Gerrard is a shit manager of a mid-table Prem club and players would notice pretty quick. I'd have hoped some of our youth recruitment would be a bit closer to first team action by now, not Wilson so much as the 19/20 year olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Be interesting to see if he can keep his Rangers & Scotland U17 goalscoring record (49 Goals in 21/22 season) up in the PL18 and PL2 for VIlla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 He was very good against Norwich. Not afraid to mix it, and shooting whenever possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I mean signing the best youth players in Scotland... Scotland are absolute bobbins. It's like being the best darts player In Burkina Faso. All well and good but is it any endorsement of ability? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Liverpool have just signed Ben Doak and Calvin Ramsay, Man City signed Emilio Lawrence, Leeds signed Rory Mahady from Celtic, Newcastle signed Charlie McArthur. We're not the only ones signing players from Scotland, they're producing a lot of highly rated youngsters at the moment. Most of them not only performing in Scotland development leagues but also on the international stage as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Impressive movement and worked his socks off last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 12 hours ago, ferguson1 said: Exactly this. Young players will have watched their heroes and/or elite players growing up, so would understandably want to play for them. He was born 2006, he was 9 when Gerrard left Liverpool so probably never saw his peak Unai Emery on the other hand has won 9 major trophies in the last 8 years so he would be aware of his achievements 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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