Popular Post Genie Posted May 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Both labour and the conservatives are full of loonies right now. Different types of loonies, but loonies all the same. On one side they are guilty killing thousands of people, sending billions to their pals and can’t be bothered to get it back, breaking the rules they set themselves and told the nation were essential. Lied to the queen. Lied to parliament. Lied to the nation. Hate poor people. Told the country to vote to leave the EU which has a thousand downsides and zero upsides. Decimated the NHS and Police force. They’ve been caught with their hands in the till multiple times. Generally show a laughable level of incompetence whenever they are interviewed. What makes the others just as bad? 8 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Just now, Genie said: On one side they are guilty killing thousands of people, sending billions to their pals and can’t be bothered to get it back, breaking the rules they set themselves and told the nation were essential. Lied to the queen. Lied to parliament. Lied to the nation. Hate poor people. Told the country to vote to leave the EU which has a thousand downsides and zero upsides. Decimated the NHS and Police force. They’ve been caught with their hands in the till multiple times. Generally show a laughable level of incompetence whenever they are interviewed. What makes the others just as bad? Obviously you are an ardent Labour supporter, I can't be bothered to argue with you. I will have my opinion, you have yours. Thanks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Just now, MaVilla said: Obviously you are an ardent Labour supporter, I can't be bothered to argue with you. I will have my opinion, you have yours. Thanks. I am not ardent anything. There’s more than 2 parties. I’m genuinely intrigued what makes them all as bad as those in charge at the moment. P.s. I forgot to mention they are actual criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Obviously you are an ardent Labour supporter, I can't be bothered to argue with you. I will have my opinion, you have yours. Thanks. I've voted both Tory and Labour in the past. I've no idea how anyone can currently claim they're both as bad as each other. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: I've voted both Tory and Labour in the past. I've no idea how anyone can currently claim they're both as bad as each other. It’s like saying all footballers are the same after what a Manchester based player is accused of. It’s ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: I haven't worked the elections this year. But the feedback from some of my colleagues is that there's a general feeling of disenchantment with all politicians, regardless of which party. That's only the view from my area. But I think it's probably typical. Classic 'I put my faith in the Tories and realise they're shit, so I'm going to blame all of politics rather than admit maybe I backed the wrong horse.' 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) You can only judge Labour on whether you believe they will deliver on what they say they can or not, or on their last administration. As an opposition they have been pretty poor, we've had a fair few elections since Brown and they haven't won any, in fact they have got worse. They go on about partygate when they knew they were not as clean as they claimed. Circumstances might be a bit different, but to not know who was there, then fumble around trying to convince people it's all ok. All this while a war is going on in Europe, which is covering most headlines. Edited May 5, 2022 by colhint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Both labour and the conservatives are full of loonies right now. Different types of loonies, but loonies all the same. This too! (What I said in the last post) Edited May 5, 2022 by Rolta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, Genie said: On one side they are guilty killing thousands of people, sending billions to their pals and can’t be bothered to get it back, breaking the rules they set themselves and told the nation were essential. Lied to the queen. Lied to parliament. Lied to the nation. Hate poor people. Told the country to vote to leave the EU which has a thousand downsides and zero upsides. Decimated the NHS and Police force. They’ve been caught with their hands in the till multiple times. Generally show a laughable level of incompetence whenever they are interviewed. What makes the others just as bad? But other than that what have the romans done for us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: But other than that what have the romans done for us? It should be pretty easy to come up with a couple of things comparable to that lot you’d have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 56 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Then the daily mail and the sun have done their job. You speak as if the masses still read newspapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 I have also gone back and forth in my life including lib dem. I cant be arsed to vote (as I now live in the USA) but for what its worth my thoughts are Conservative negatives: Bad for the economy, bad for business bad for the rule of law (because they are crooks and havent changed since the sleaze days.) Too many racists , loonies and bigots left in their party. positives: Excellent handling of Ukraine and excellent at the USA relationship. Labour negatives: too many surrender monkeys against Russia . Still do not promise to get us back into the EU which is my top priority. Still too many anti semites and other loonies in the party positives: arguably the best leader now they have dumped the anti USA /EU Corbyn. best domestic policies. Lib/Dem negatives: irrelevant so its a wasted vote positives: pro EU, pro business. As rejoining the EU is my top issue if I was in the UK I would waste my vote and vote lib dem and then get shouted at by my family for "letting in the (insert Tories / Labour here)" For ANYONE who votes in the UK. Be proud of yourself and count yourselves lucky you have all party's committed to democracy. Here in the USA we have the Republican party that is successfully changing a once free country into a Putin style fascist state by removing the right to vote for people of colour or those who disagree with them, womens rights and banning mathematics books. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 5, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: Lib/Dem negatives: irrelevant so its a wasted vote positives: pro EU, pro business. LibDems are possibly going to hold the balance of power again at the next General Election, they aren't as irrelevant as you imagine 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 minute ago, bickster said: LibDems are possibly going to hold the balance of power again at the next General Election, they aren't as irrelevant as you imagine ooh I didnt know! thank you! Thats a good thing (in my eyes) ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 I’ve just been to vote, despite feeling fairly apathetic to the local mayoral candidates, I always vote out of respect for my right to vote. It’s not something we should ever take for granted. Plus it’s an opportunity to cast a vote against the Conservatives. My local polling station has seen 93 voters since 7am, and according to the lady in there that’s one of the better performers in the area. With such low turnout, one vote really can make all the difference. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: As rejoining the EU is my top issue if I was in the UK I would waste my vote and vote lib dem Yeah, that was me at the last general election. I know it was a wasted vote but it was the single most important issue for me so again, all I could do is send my message though it was totally drowned out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 5, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: ooh I didnt know! thank you! Thats a good thing (in my eyes) ! It's only my opinion but I see Labour doing well but not able to have a majority. The question is if they can do well enough to only have the LibDems as partners in a coalition. Given that there also seems to be some sort of unoffical electoral pact between Labour and the LibDems, I also expect the LibDems to win more seats than they currently have 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) Getting a bit off topic but with the absolute shit fest that has been the situation since Brexit, and a lot of eyes being opened, it will he interesting if another party starts talking about about another referendum. Especially if as @bickster thinks Lib Dems stage a big recovery. Most think it would be off the table for years but you never know, so many people have seen through the Boris Bullshit this last couple of years. Edited May 5, 2022 by sidcow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, paul514 said: You speak as if the masses still read newspapers. Social media does a great job of projecting the lies, hate and fear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 5, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, sidcow said: Especially if as @bickster thinks Lib Dems stage a big recovery. To be clear, I don't think it will be a big recovery but they will have a few more seats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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