Local council elections 2022

[bickster]

Just now, OutByEaster? said:

The BBC are still reporting that, and are downplaying Labour gains - is it that they haven't updated their figures yet? Where are the higher numbers reported?

Hopefully at some point someone wins an election and decides to return the BBC their freedom and integrity.

Looks about what we expected doesn't it? Labour making modest gains from an already strong starting point and the voters letting Boris know exactly what they think of him by abandoning the Tories just about everywhere. 

A good night for the Greens which is nice to see and a good night for the Lib Dems - which for me is always a surprise, I have no idea who votes for the Lib Dems or why.

 

Guardian has Labour +91 and the error seems to be in unreported losses in the "Other column" ie Ratepayers / Indies who the guardian are reporting to be -34

[OutByEaster?]

3 minutes ago, bickster said:

Guardian has Labour +91 and the error seems to be in unreported losses in the "Other column" ie Ratepayers / Indies who the guardian are reporting to be -34

I have questions - firstly is the error the Guardian's error or the Beeb/Sky's error?

Then what are unreported losses?

And who are ratepayers/indies and why is there an "other" column?

Essentially I understood very little of that sentence.

 

[bickster]

If you look at Barnet + Wandsworth + Westminster. Those three councils are +39 for Labour on their own

[bickster]

1 minute ago, OutByEaster? said:

I have questions - firstly is the error the Guardian's error or the Beeb/Sky's error?

Then what are unreported losses?

And who are ratepayers/indies and why is there an "other" column?

Essentially I understood very little of that sentence.

 

Beeb and Sky are saying that the Indie / Ratepayers that always win seats in council elections haven't lost any seats when they have, currently around 32

[OutByEaster?]

1 minute ago, bickster said:

If you look at Barnet + Wandsworth + Westminster. Those three councils are +39 for Labour on their own

Seems odd then that the major news source aren't reporting it that way.

I mean, the BBC have increasingly become a controlled mouthpiece for this government and I guess it's almost expected that they might under report Labour gains, but socialist paradise Sky News would surely be all over this?

 

[bickster]

Just now, OutByEaster? said:

Seems odd then that the major news source aren't reporting it that way.

I mean, the BBC have increasingly become a controlled mouthpiece for this government and I guess it's almost expected that they might under report Labour gains, but socialist paradise Sky News would surely be all over this?

 

Are they reporting the London elections separately?

[Demitri_C]

21 minutes ago, bickster said:

Yes but Wandsworth and Westminster have been Tory for a long time. Most voters in those councils will never have experienced a Labour administration. Those wins for Labour are hugely significant. Because of the way London councils elect all their seats in one go every 4 years and the rest of the country is voting on seats from 2018 (where Labour did well anyway) London was always going to be where the shocks were and for the Tories to lose its two flagship London councis is a significant moment you have to feel

If they get a labour council like enfield they gonna be in for a shock 

Enfield is under labour again. So glad i moved from there. 

[OutByEaster?]

1 minute ago, bickster said:

Beeb and Sky are saying that the Indie / Ratepayers that always win seats in council elections haven't lost any seats when they have, currently around 32

So what are Indie/Ratepayers? Just independent candidates?

The BBC had Residents Associations at +6 and Independents as no gains/losses.

 

[OutByEaster?]

3 minutes ago, bickster said:

Are they reporting the London elections separately?

Not that I can see.

Ah well, it'll come out in the wash.

[bickster]

4 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

So what are Indie/Ratepayers? Just independent candidates?

Yep.

[bickster]

West Oxfordshire is very interesting. 17 Wards. Tories lost 7 seats, 5 to LibDem, and 1 each to Labour and Green

West Oxfordshire includes Witney which was the David Cameron seat

Its gone from Tory to NOC with the LibDems being a firm second party

[markavfc40]

Looks like it has been a poor night for the Tories, decent for Labour and good for Greens and Lib Dems 

I think it tells Labour that they still have plenty to do to ensure they are biggest party at the next election but they are heading in the right direction.

As for the Tories given the cost of living issues are only just starting to really be felt by the masses and are going to sadly get much worse, and they not having the will to sort it, and more law breaking in terms of fines for Johnson to come/Sue Gray report giving more clear proof he intentionally misled parliament, then things are only going to get far worse for them. That on top of these poor results should do for Johnson in coming months.

Edited May 6, 2022 by markavfc40

[Dodgyknees]

Nuneaton, describes mealtimes for the whole country and also a seat that the Tories held. 

[Genie]

Tamworth also held, but with a smaller Conservative majority.

[Demitri_C]

If the Conservatives have any hope of winning the next election they need to sack johnson hold a new leader ballot then call a general election once that leader in place.

Obviously i cant see that happening. I still think labour will win the next election comfortably 

[bickster]

Just now, Demitri_C said:

If the Conservatives have any hope of winning the next election they need to sack johnson hold a new leader ballot then call a general election once that leader in place.

The election will not be called early, there really isn't the time if it's with a new leader. A new leader will not be in place until the autumn, that only gives him one budget cycle anyway before 2024

[Rds1983]

Great result. Big blow against Conservative. 

[The Fun Factory]

A fairly quiet night. Looks like steady progress for Labour and Lib Dems. Labour did well in 2018 the last time these seats were contested so must be reasonably pleased to make a few more gains. Doing well in London which is increasingly moving away from the rest of England in voting patterns.  However surely that is to be expected given it is mid term and the Tories are a utter shambles.  Difficult to project these results nationally for a general election however it feels like  Labour would have to either do much better in England or at best will be relying on  a coalition with the lib dems to ever get into power.  The loss of Scotland as a Labour stronghold to the SNP will make it very hard for them to win in 2024 as the immediate line from the Tories will no doubt be that Labour would back a second referendum on Scottish independence to get support from the SNP to have some sort of working majority even if it would not be  a formal coalition.

Bristol voting out the mayor system is interesting as it shows lukewarm support for further devolved mayors in other cities. And the Northern Ireland result could be a symbolic result with Sein Fein due to be the largest party.

Edited May 6, 2022 by The Fun Factory

[bickster]

Bear in mind that Cumberland is a brand new council never elected before but as the tweet says covers three "Red Wall" Tory seats!

[Lichfield Dean]

Dudley