Peter Griffin Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: If true, I’m very curious to know why they waited until the final hours to make a move for him. Maybe we may have thought we could get him on the cheap with only hours to go. It is not completely uncommon. It appears Arsenal tried to do that with Doug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: If true, I’m very curious to know why they waited until the final hours to make a move for him. It says he was only made available very late in the window. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Was just coming to post this. Not another pensioner! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 I assume we would have let Luiz leave if we got Kondogbia or we wouldn't have signed Dendoncker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Peter Griffin said: Is arithmetic the issue or maybe poor research skills or is it just plain old changing the facts to suit the narrative? The narrative is we should be signing younger talent who are ready for the 1st team who we can sell them on for a higher fee in the future rather then sending them for basically free to Turkey 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Just now, messi11 said: The narrative is we should be signing younger talent who are ready for the 1st team who we can sell them on for a higher fee in the future rather then sending them for basically free to Turkey We need both experienced pros, untested younger uncut gems and youth we can develop and potentially sell for a profit. Our transfer policy needs a balanced blend of different strategies. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Was Kondogbia who Bardell was referring to? https://madriduniversal.com/aston-villa-tried-to-sign-atletico-madrid-midfielder-late-on-deadline-day-report/ No 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, VillanousOne said: We need both experienced pros, untested younger uncut gems and youth we can develop and potentially sell for a profit. Our transfer policy needs a balanced blend of different strategies. Nope, completely disagree, we aren't talking about signing some 16 year old from cowdenbeath, we are talking about signing people who are 19-25 who have already done it elsewhere. The experienced people come from the ones who have succeeded here already that we didn't want to sell (27+) Edited September 5, 2022 by paul514 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Was Kondogbia who Bardell was referring to? https://madriduniversal.com/aston-villa-tried-to-sign-atletico-madrid-midfielder-late-on-deadline-day-report/ I doubt it, wasnt that podcast on deadline day so doubt was a transfer that close 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, paul514 said: Nope, completely disagree, we aren't talking about signing some 16 year old from cowdenbeath, we are talking about signing people who are 19-25 who have already done it elsewhere. So you mean the ones the bigger clubs snap up for big money then... Like Antony? Or the ones from the Championship? Or a few more Nakambas , Trez and Wesley's? Or the questionable ones which there is no guarantee will come good? How old is Kamara? I just watched something with Oacqetas agent basically saying he is not a player they would have gotten if anyone else offered the money. I think you will find all the big clubs sign a mix of players of different ages. Clubs with less money or on a reboot will generally be the ones signing youngsters with potential, and we already have an elite academy. One of them set up the goal for Leon Bailey the other day, who is also within that age range. I think we genuinely play too much " Football Manager " in our heads as if there aren't multiple clubs competing for players. Edited September 6, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 50 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: So you mean the ones the bigger clubs snap up for big money then... Like Antony? Or the ones from the Championship? Or a few more Nakambas , Trez and Wesley's? Or the questionable ones which there is no guarantee will come good? How old is Kamara? I just watched something with Oacqetas agent basically saying he is not a player they would have gotten if anyone else offered the money. I think you will find all the big clubs sign a mix of players of different ages. Clubs with less money or on a reboot will generally be the ones signing youngsters with potential, and we already have an elite academy. One of them set up the goal for Leon Bailey the other day, who is also within that age range. I think we genuinely play too much " Football Manager " in our heads as if there aren't multiple clubs competing for players. Players from all over.... For example I tipped on here..... Sangare before he moved to PSV for 6m Koopmeiners before he moved to Atalanta for 9-11m Kamara - now with us Bailey - Now with us Buendia - the summer before he joined us for nearly half the price he eventually moved to us. Botman - Last summer Sosa - 2 summers ago Literally the list goes on, I'm not a professional scout, it isn't that hard and we are an attractive destination for foreign players and Championship players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 I missed what Bardell had said. Did he talk about a possible transfer that didn't come off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, CVByrne said: I missed what Bardell had said. Did he talk about a possible transfer that didn't come off? He said something along the lines of our primary CM target was available during the window then his club said he wasn't. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Sangare, as it fits the narrative, gerrard was at one of PSV's games recently and Old Villain had some ITK about a deal. Edited September 6, 2022 by Made In Aston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 6 hours ago, paul514 said: Players from all over.... For example I tipped on here..... Sangare before he moved to PSV for 6m Koopmeiners before he moved to Atalanta for 9-11m Kamara - now with us Bailey - Now with us Buendia - the summer before he joined us for nearly half the price he eventually moved to us. Botman - Last summer Sosa - 2 summers ago Literally the list goes on, I'm not a professional scout, it isn't that hard and we are an attractive destination for foreign players and Championship players. Right, and how many did you miss? Or are you 100% accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 47 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: He said something along the lines of our primary CM target was available during the window then his club said he wasn't. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Sangare, as it fits the narrative and gerrard was at one of PSV's games recently. I don't think it was him. Apparently United missed out on him before going for Casemiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, messi11 said: The narrative is we should be signing younger talent who are ready for the 1st team who we can sell them on for a higher fee in the future rather then sending them for basically free to Turkey I know what the narrative is, it just has more credibility when the facts are accurate and not embellished. Edited September 6, 2022 by Peter Griffin Fixed a typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, zak said: Right, and how many did you miss? Or are you 100% accurate Did I miss players that are good? Or have I tipped players who have gone on to not being good? Yes to the first, no to the second. At worst they have stayed at the same level so I tipped Max Aarons for example Edited September 6, 2022 by paul514 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zatman said: I don't think it was him. Apparently United missed out on him before going for Casemiro If United wanted Sangare he would be playing at Old Trafford. Edited September 6, 2022 by paul514 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 On 04/09/2022 at 23:13, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: To be fair, they can't catch a break with strikers.... Well they can... But not the good kind. Their new striker is out for the season. Similar happened with Jimenez. Costa's work permit has been refused, they really can't catch a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: Costa's work permit has been refused, they really can't catch a break. going by his last few years that may be a blessing in disguise for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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