LondonLax Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, fruitvilla said: What's the time stamp? 27 sec on that video. Where he grabs the opponents head and shoved it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 59 minutes ago, Ponky said: Based on the video above there's scope for appeal I reckon. Yes he put his hands on the bloke's neck but any force in the altercation was instigated by the Brentford player. I couldn't tell from any video but this freeze frame is why Kamara got red, not hand on the neck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, LondonLax said: 27 sec on that video. Where he grabs the opponents head and shoved it back. One of us needs glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: I couldn't tell from any video but this freeze frame is why Kamara got red, not hand on the neck This possibly could be it, but here Kamara is trying to pull 33 away from Emery and Martinez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, fruitvilla said: This possibly could be it, but here Kamara is trying to pull 33 away from Emery and Martinez. It is it and the reason only he got the red. Hand to face. Been given before. I remember years ago Richarlison at Everton got same ban for handbags but touching the face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 48 minutes ago, fruitvilla said: One of us needs glasses. Watch it from the other angle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 We'll miss him most at Man U, but as 3 match bans go it's not a terrible time and we'll have him full of beans and raring to go in the new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Ghoddos shoved Konsa in the neck following our goal. Should also have gone for consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dale said: Ghoddos shoved Konsa in the neck following our goal. Should also have gone for consistency. And kept his arm in his face not to dissimilar to mma style clinch when forcing your opponent back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted December 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2023 I would expect the appeal to present the evidence of multiple Brentford players doing worse and then the panel will have to decide if all of this nonsense is worthy of giving a couple of their players three-match bans too or just reducing Kamara's to one and being done with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, fightoffyour said: I would expect the appeal to present the evidence of multiple Brentford players doing worse and then the panel will have to decide if all of this nonsense is worthy of giving a couple of their players three-match bans too or just reducing Kamara's to one and being done with it. This is exactly why I think we should appeal too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: I would expect the appeal to present the evidence of multiple Brentford players doing worse and then the panel will have to decide if all of this nonsense is worthy of giving a couple of their players three-match bans too or just reducing Kamara's to one and being done with it. We're not appealing are we? They won't overturn clear footage of hand on face from Kamara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 18, 2023 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2023 I think it's a red, I can't see us winning any appeal. In the long run over the course of this season, the suspensions we've got at the moment might help us in that they'll help to keep some of the players fresh down the line. A fit and sharp Kamara in March/April could yet be a very useful thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders129 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I think it's a red, I can't see us winning any appeal. In the long run over the course of this season, the suspensions we've got at the moment might help us in that they'll help to keep some of the players fresh down the line. A fit and sharp Kamara in March/April could yet be a very useful thing. I agree re rest and rotation. If we can’t pick up results with one player missing for a few games then we don’t deserve to win the title/qualify top 4. I expect we’ll be seeing a lot of the ball against Sheff U and Burnley at home so maybe Tielemans can slot in next to Dougie. If we can back ourselves to beat Sheff U and Burnley, I’m not opposed to keeping it really tight at OT and playing for a point (I doubt that’s what we’ll do though) In any case Kamara can rest and reset now ready for 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 The risk of appealing is having the ban lengthened as a result... I personally don't think it was that bad, I saw a few of their players do much worse but neck and face seems to be the straw that broke the camels back.. in reflection he probably should have just walked away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Looked accidental as he was trying to break things up, but clearly the ref needed to throw a red to get control. The commentator even said so a few seconds before. Annoying to lose him for 3 games, but hopefully won't have too much impact, though makes Man U tougher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 49 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I think it's a red, I can't see us winning any appeal. In the long run over the course of this season, the suspensions we've got at the moment might help us in that they'll help to keep some of the players fresh down the line. A fit and sharp Kamara in March/April could yet be a very useful thing. I was thinking similar. We probably won't even appeal as it's hand to face it's never getting overturned. We should be ok without him for next three games if we have Tielemans fit. It forces us to make the team changes. It also keeps Kamara fresher for second half of season as he'll have missed 4 games now in December via suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, rubberman said: Looked accidental as he was trying to break things up, Yeah definitely agree with that. Brentford players came charging in on Emi with 2 handed pushes to the chest that escalated things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 We missed him through injury at the back end of last season and we were still competitive. It's not ideal but we can cope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaliver Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 He is an important player in the team but we have players that can fill his spot no worries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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