Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2022 54 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: Fair. I would argue Sherwood had us playing more attractive football with much worse players as well. Time for my weekly " I actually loved Tim Sherwood " post in the Manager thread. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 For me it's complete waste of time as people mentioned he reverted to style to save his job nothing more nothing less and now we.look awful going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, ciggiesnbeer said: Fair. I would argue Sherwood had us playing more attractive football with much worse players as well. Mad when you see it written down. It's difficult for Gerrard to be as bad as he is. Bruce or Sherwood with no tactics would get more out of this squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 5 hours ago, rbcuk said: As a few have said in here, going down to watch us is boring, if I didn’t have a season ticket I doubt I would even pay to watch the shit currently on display, I used to enjoy going down knowing we would have a go at teams, I couldn’t even tell you what kind of football he is trying to play, but I can see many not renewing next season if he’s still here I paid 34 quid to watch it on Friday and just didn't enjoy it at all, we barely had a shot second half bar Ings shooting wildly from halfway line in injury time. Not a knee jerk reaction either as I went to Norwich back end of last season and it was pretty much the same as Friday bar us getting a second right at the end. Just no joy in our play and the season already feels a hard long slog when we should be capable of some more excitement at least with the players in final third. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillaChris Posted September 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, macandally said: Any reason we didn’t let Deano continue to learn on about £4m a season less? I still think DS reached his end point, we just botched the replacement but then that applied to the signings post Grealish aswell which summed up 20/21, no forward planning for when long serving manager or player leaves. There are more managers in world football than Dean Smith and Steven Gerrard, let's hope we call the next one right as it's a very low bar at prem level they'll be walking into. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 5 hours ago, nick76 said: Where? Southampton was a victory but it was literally two incredibly poor teams and they were just worse than us. 3 points great but nothing else positive from that game. Mate you are off with the fairies with this one… No I suggest the owners/CEO fire him. As for Howe/Newcastle, i couldn’t give a damn about them. We are very poor at the moment, this season, end of last season, Gerrard can’t get a tune out of this team. Aside from the draw against City this has been a poor start to the season performance wise, thankfully we have picked up points from two very poor teams/performances in Everton and Southampton and before you try to take positives from that we still only have 7 points from 7 games…1 ppg which continues from the end of last season. Gerrard can’t get a tune out of this team and even you have highlighted his problems and I don’t see him fixing them and I don’t agree he’s helped Mings, he’s been fine. McGinn has gone backwards with the captaincy decision. Also after the Man City game SG went back to his usual team and tactics, just lucky Southampton were awful that day because it certainly wasn’t down to us stopping them. did you conveniently forget, the point from the best team in the country, and should have won, bar for poor officiating, which would have had us 10th, and 1.3 ppg. If I'm off with the fairies, you must be with the Grim Reaper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, macandally said: Any reason we didn’t let Deano continue to learn on about £4m a season less? 134 games v 33 games? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, TRO said: did you conveniently forget, the point from the best team in the country, and should have won, bar for poor officiating, which would have had us 10th, and 1.3 ppg. If I'm off with the fairies, you must be with the Grim Reaper. Good point, we played very well that game and others. I think we chop and change WAY too much so we never get to build a style of play or relationships. It seems like we always change a winning team or pattern of play under Gerrard and I dont understand why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: Good point, we played very well that game and others. I think we chop and change WAY too much so we never get to build a style of play or relationships. It seems like we always change a winning team or pattern of play under Gerrard and I dont understand why. I think we have been like that, for some time.....searching for consistency amongst inconsistent players....We seem to suffer, with injuries a fair bit too, another source of disruption. We lost that bit of consistency, further upfield when Jack left, and haven't regained it, imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, ciggiesnbeer said: Good point, we played very well that game and others. I think we chop and change WAY too much so we never get to build a style of play or relationships. It seems like we always change a winning team or pattern of play under Gerrard and I dont understand why. The decent display against City was never going to just be replicated against Southampton. It was a backs to the wall smash and grab job. If we sat back and tried to replicate that strategy against Southampton at home he'd have been crucified - it's the kind of display that's acceptable in maybe half a dozen games a year. He still needs to figure out how to set us up to actually attack. For some real despair, look back at when we played Southamton in Marchand won 4-0. With a similar team and Southampton being about as bad, we went from smashing them off the park to looking absolutely lost. What went wrong since then? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 6 hours ago, TRO said: 134 games v 33 games? A promotion, 12 game winning streak, an FA Cup Final and kept us in the league v a 38 player churn and 1 trophy in 9 in a two horse league? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Even when Gerrard leaves, some are still going to insist he wasn't an abject failure. Like Boris Johnson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Take out promoted sides, the only side worse than us on xG are the team we just scraped past. Gerrard is a disgrace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Take out promoted sides, the only side worse than us on xG are the team we just scraped past. Gerrard is a disgrace. "Pragmatic" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Gerrard has gone cheapskate Otto Rehagal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, TRO said: did you conveniently forget, the point from the best team in the country, and should have won, bar for poor officiating, which would have had us 10th, and 1.3 ppg. If I'm off with the fairies, you must be with the Grim Reaper. You are taking the Coutinho goal? despite the fact City players had stopped especially Stones and then not even taking into account the fact that goals change games and might have woken City up to come back at least. Anyway it was a draw and that’s the result, a great result at that but one highlight in a poor period. Anyway yes a great point against City but the other six games we’ve been poor performance wise despite the few minutes here and there you proclaim as being really positive. It’s easy being the Grim Reaper when the facts show grim circumstances under SG from 7 points in the last 7 games, 16 points in the last 18 games. It’s incredibly hard to defend SG who then goes on to blame the players and now says we need to be less attractive and be more pragmatic, yet none of us have seen this attractive side and his pragmatic side was seen in the City game but then not in the Southampton game. I’m not sure SG has a plan. Edited September 21, 2022 by nick76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 8 hours ago, ciggiesnbeer said: It seems like we always change a winning team or pattern of play under Gerrard and I dont understand why. Neither does he. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 11 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Mad when you see it written down. It's difficult for Gerrard to be as bad as he is. Bruce or Sherwood with no tactics would get more out of this squad. Or when you see it written down another way, league games only, because Sherwood's cup games massively mask his terrible league record. Gerrard still on par with O'Neill after 34 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 9 hours ago, TRO said: I think we have been like that, for some time.....searching for consistency amongst inconsistent players....We seem to suffer, with injuries a fair bit too, another source of disruption. We lost that bit of consistency, further upfield when Jack left, and haven't regained it, imo. You cannot have consistency in a team if you keep changing the players. That is not the players, that is the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompedyret Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Man, looking at that next to the other one really makes you feel the effects of rapid global warming, doesn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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