The next manager of Aston Villa

[Vive_La_Villa]

When we inevitably improve I can already sense the ‘Smith would have done this anyway  given time and now all the players are back’

Will be an interesting season.

[TheLegendOfLeonBailey31]

5 minutes ago, MaVilla said:

Welcome American friendo!

Its ok, use whatever words you want, but if you use words like "stud", you will quickly get these types of responses:

 

(apologies, its our English humour...)

Haha thanks...  can you explain to me why that is?  Enlighten me on the English humor.

[dont_do_it_doug.]

7 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

In his second season, they finished 13 points behind them, so it's not like they were consistently narrowing the gap. 

Then they won the league. They went the entire season unbeaten. They are currently top again. 

There are lots of potential reasons why you might not fancy him. His record in Scotland should not be one of them. 

[Spoony]

3 minutes ago, TheLegendOfLeonBailey31 said:

Haha...  apologies.... as you can see I'm new here and an American...  if stud is an outlawed term I sincerely apologize and will make sure to choose my words better next time.

Welcome!

 

[MaVilla]

2 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said:

In retrospect Villa were just too nice and naive under Smith.

I'm hoping Gerrard (if he becomes Manager) will instill a little more defensive awareness, savvy and some nastiness where necessary.

We are been too easy to play against for so long...

I also like the fact every player now has to impress, there are no favourites which should mean everyone will up their game.

if we finally fix our midfield problem in January.....i'm gonna orgasm.

[robby b]

I think it's a bit strange that he got off the train at the terminus, all the way down in London. He could have got off in Birmingham? 

[KMitch]

1 minute ago, robby b said:

I think it's a bit strange that he got off the train at the terminus, all the way down in London. He could have got off in Birmingham? 

Purslow still lives in London, and I'm pretty sure Sawiris does for part of the year too.  Smith's interview 3 years ago was also done in London.

[Peter Griffin]

2 minutes ago, robby b said:

I think it's a bit strange that he got off the train at the terminus, all the way down in London. He could have got off in Birmingham? 

Maybe meeting some mates in London. Lost of people involved in football live in London. Even our owner, Nassef Sawiris lives in London 

[Spoony]

2 minutes ago, TheLegendOfLeonBailey31 said:

Haha thanks...  can you explain to me why that is?  Enlighten me on the English humor.

There was a (dreadful) series (and films??) back in the day called “Carry On [ ]” (so for example, Carry On Camping). It was filled with innuendo and that bloke in that photo was played by Kenneth Williams and would make that face and say “oh matron” if such an innuendo was said.

You’ll see it a lot on here. For example “Bailey keeps pulling out” or “Cash is putting his balls in too deep” would be met with the image of Kenneth Williams. 
 

It was well before my time but I think I got all that right??

[MaVilla]

2 minutes ago, TheLegendOfLeonBailey31 said:

Haha thanks...  can you explain to me why that is?  Enlighten me on the English humor.

oh yikes.....you could probably write a whole thesis on weird/quirky English humour.....

English humour is very sarcastic, self-deprecating or tongue in cheek, the Kenneth Williams Ooh Matron gif goes back decades, its like a camp/quirky response to sexual innuendo, for example:

 

[Joshie2000]

I'm excited with the prospect of what he can bring, not only to the established players but to the youngsters in and around the 1st time, they maybe young but they will know all about him and how he played and what a player he was. 

I understand people's apprehensions with the choice of Gerrard, having read this topic it seems that people are only upset as Deano was one of us, I feel if deano wasn't one of us then his sacking wouldn't be a problem. 

For the doubters out there, if Gerrard was a former player or one of us, would you still be questioning his short managerial record, if you look at Deano's before he joined it was nothing special to right home about, regardless of us being in the championship at the time we were still a massive job and step up for him and a big risk also, but we gave him a chance, so I hope we give Gerrard or whoever the same chance, you never know we might be surprised. 

UTV 

[dont_do_it_doug.]

George Boateng on that Steven Gerrard tackle

Quote

"But Steven had the manners to ring me up after the game and apologise for what he had done. He said he was scared that I was going to kick him and that's why he did what he did. He went into the challenge thinking he was going to be kicked. That was the reason he gave me and it was fair enough. I got on with things. I told him I could still play my football, so I did not hold a grudge against him. Obviously, things might have been different if I was unable to play football anymore."

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/7152188.gerrard-makes-impression-boateng/

[Nicho]

Slightly concerned that supposedly his team do all the coaching.

Probably just naive of me and the footballing world.

In general I’m okay with the appointment.

[TheLegendOfLeonBailey31]

6 minutes ago, Spoony said:

There was a (dreadful) series (and films??) back in the day called “Carry On [ ]” (so for example, Carry On Camping). It was filled with innuendo and that bloke in that photo was played by Kenneth Williams and would make that face and say “oh matron” if such an innuendo was said.

You’ll see it a lot on here. For example “Bailey keeps pulling out” or “Cash is putting his balls in too deep” would be met with the image of Kenneth Williams. 
 

It was well before my time but I think I got all that right??

Haha, that's hilarious.  Thank you for the explanation.

[MaVilla]

7 minutes ago, Spoony said:

There was a (dreadful) series (and films??) back in the day called “Carry On [ ]” (so for example, Carry On Camping). It was filled with innuendo and that bloke in that photo was played by Kenneth Williams and would make that face and say “oh matron” if such an innuendo was said.

You’ll see it a lot on here. For example “Bailey keeps pulling out” or “Cash is putting his balls in too deep” would be met with the image of Kenneth Williams. 
 

It was well before my time but I think I got all that right??

excellent explanation!

[Vive_La_Villa]

3 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said:

George Boateng on that Steven Gerrard tackle

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/7152188.gerrard-makes-impression-boateng/

Yet it was compared to Roy Keane’s pre-mediated attack with no remorse! 

[foreveryoung]

3 minutes ago, Nicho said:

Slightly concerned that supposedly his team do all the coaching.

Probably just naive of me and the footballing world.

In general I’m okay with the appointment.

He's admitted this himself, saying Mike Beale, is 20x the coach he will ever be. Supposed to be a top quality coach this dude, guess we will see in the next couple of weeks.

[Beastmix]

1 hour ago, Keyblade said:

Out of interest, could you name some of these managers?

Sure. To name but a few:

 

Guardiola - only prior experience was a year with the Barca youth team

Zidane - Zero years prior managerial experience

Tuchel - with far less experience than Gerrard, joined consistent relegation strugglers (at the time) Mainz. Got them to finish 9th, then 5th the following season.

Klopp - in his first professional management job, again with Mainz, managed to survive relegation from the 2nd division, then narrowly missed out on promotion for two seasons, the next year got promoted to the Bundesliga, and then finished 11th.

Dean Smith - joined Walsall and avoided relegation, then two mid-table finishes, got them to a Wembley final (English Football League Trophy), then left with them sitting in 4th place in the league.

Alex Ferguson - with only a few months prior experience at East Stirlingshire, took over at St Mirren who were in the bottom half of the 2nd division. Within three years they were promoted and then champions of the 1st division.

 

All managers who went into jobs with far less experience than Gerrard and succeeded. Of course, it goes wrong too sometimes, but it goes wrong for experienced managers too! It's just the way it is when you're managing in the hardest league in the world.
Only two of these managers had more resources than Aston Villa currently have and they, not only succeeded at those clubs, but went on to have superb managerial careers. I think we all need to have a little faith/positivity and not get on his back right away because, let's be honest, it doesn't do anybody (him, the players, or even the fans) any favours.

[Stockport_Villain]

37 minutes ago, Davkaus said:

My current mood is disappointed but powerless.

This for me. Completely underwhelmed. 

[Tom13]

Former Aston Villa captain Stiliyan Petrov has given Beale a glowing endorsement following the rumours that are circulating. He had this to say on Twitter: “I’ve came across Michael few times. Incredible coach and powerful communicator on and off the pitch.”