Indigo Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 3 hours ago, TRO said: He is also lumped in the same grouping with Emile Smith-Rowe, who plays much more offensively, maybe thats a teaser? I think retaining the ball offensivley as opposed to defensivley can take on a slightly different context and set of skills. Smith-Rowe is the only player in that grouping that plays in an advanced/attacking midfield position. He's very much the outlier there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 12 hours ago, ejs1111 said: One of the reasons I agree with others on VT who have said Luiz is not being played in his ideal position. If we sign this Doucoure kid, he can compete with Nakamba for the DM spot. Then Luiz can push further forward and compete with our other midfielders for minutes. Luiz looks so much better further up the pitch imo. my take on it too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 If you look at Leicester with Ndidi and Tielemans, that partnership works really well. Maybe if we signed Doucoure, or a similar type of player, he could do the Ndidi role with Luiz being more of a Tielemans type player. With Luiz's passing and shooting having him further up the file could be really good. We'd then have McGinn and Nakamba who could also challenge for those positions as well. I think we also could do with either a left winger or ACM, depending on what the plan is for Buendia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khizzy Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 I hope we've made a cheicky bid for this guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Was hoping this would be on 200 pages by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: If you look at Leicester with Ndidi and Tielemans, that partnership works really well. Maybe if we signed Doucoure, or a similar type of player, he could do the Ndidi role with Luiz being more of a Tielemans type player. With Luiz's passing and shooting having him further up the file could be really good. We'd then have McGinn and Nakamba who could also challenge for those positions as well. I think we also could do with either a left winger or ACM, depending on what the plan is for Buendia. Just how I see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 54 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: If you look at Leicester with Ndidi and Tielemans, that partnership works really well. Maybe if we signed Doucoure, or a similar type of player, he could do the Ndidi role with Luiz being more of a Tielemans type player. With Luiz's passing and shooting having him further up the file could be really good. We'd then have McGinn and Nakamba who could also challenge for those positions as well. I think we also could do with either a left winger or ACM, depending on what the plan is for Buendia. Is this player in that bracket quality wise though ? - really not sure about this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 hour ago, hippo said: Is this player in that bracket quality wise though ? - really not sure about this one. I'm the same. Not sure on the quality, but that sort of player would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 hour ago, hippo said: Is this player in that bracket quality wise though ? - really not sure about this one. No, but they are both 24 and valued at £50m+. We’d need to sign Bissouma to match that. But he might be the 21 year old version of Ndidi or Bissouma valued at €15m before their big premier league move. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, Awol said: No, but they are both 24 and valued at £50m+. We’d need to sign Bissouma to match that. But he might be the 21 year old version of Ndidi or Bissouma valued at €15m before their big premier league move. Agreed - but my point was we wouldn't be matching the Leicester pair in the terms of quality - at least not in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfly Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, hippo said: Agreed - but my point was we wouldn't be matching the Leicester pair in the terms of quality - at least not in the short term. The thing about players switching leagues is you can never tell for sure what will happen. We could sign this guy and find he's perfectly suited to our system in this league. There's just no way of knowing. But from what I've read so far, his profile suggests he has the attributes we need and that's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, Awol said: No, but they are both 24 and valued at £50m+. We’d need to sign Bissouma to match that. But he might be the 21 year old version of Ndidi or Bissouma valued at €15m before their big premier league move. Exactly. These top DM's were not big money signings originally, they have become big money players, due to supply & Demand....and their gradual improvement in the worlds most popular league. We have to get Rob Mackenzie to find one for us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, hippo said: Agreed - but my point was we wouldn't be matching the Leicester pair in the terms of quality - at least not in the short term. These teams are ahead of us in development.....we are just arriving. Jacks money has helped us fast forward somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TRO said: Exactly. These top DM's were not big money signings originally, they have become big money players, due to supply & Demand....and their gradual improvement in the worlds most popular league. We have to get Rob Mackenzie to find one for us. Ndidi: signed in 2017 for £15.9M Bissouma: signed in 2018 for £15.2M Almost like there’s a profile… Edit: and probably why we’re not prepared to go to €22M for Pape Sarr. Edited August 10, 2021 by Awol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, TRO said: These teams are ahead of us in development.....we are just arriving. Jacks money has helped us fast forward somewhat. Gives us the potential to fast forward. We piss that money away and we're back to square one. For what it's worth, I think the club is pretty well run at the moment and the money will be wisely spent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Awol said: Ndidi: signed in 2017 for £15.9M Bissouma: signed in 2018 for £15.2M Almost like there’s a profile… I could never understand us not joining that club....maybe they thought Nakamba would be up there with them, maybe he still will? I don't think Kante cost much either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, sparrow1988 said: Gives us the potential to fast forward. We piss that money away and we're back to square one. For what it's worth, I think the club is pretty well run at the moment and the money will be wisely spent. so do I.....Not sure, I understood the business of pissing the money away, bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Just now, TRO said: I could never understand us not joining that club....maybe they thought Nakamba would be up there with them, maybe he still will? I don't think Kante cost much either. Don’t think so unfortunately, already 27 and although he’s getting better is not far from his ceiling, imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejs1111 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Just now, Awol said: Ndidi: signed in 2017 for £15.9M Bissouma: signed in 2018 for £15.2M Almost like there’s a profile… Edit: and probably why we’re not prepared to go to €22M for Pape Sarr. Trust the VENN! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TRO said: so do I.....Not sure, I understood the business of pissing the money away, bit. It's a figure of speech for wasting the money. In this case spending it on poor players or other unworthy causes. In my case (at least in the past), get money on a Friday payday and come Sunday evening I have pissed it all away via handing it to a barman who then provides me with alcoholic beverages which I release from my body through urine, thus the phrase, pissing the money away. Edited August 10, 2021 by sparrow1988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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