VillaChris Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, useless said: I'd sell him if we could get our money back, but only if we were bringing in a very good replacement. Having just Archer as back up wouldn't be good, and would put too much pressure on him if Watkins was to get injured. If he doesn't go, and I imagine it's very unlikely that he will, then he can still be a decent squad member, if we use him right. Perhaps better off as a sub that can come off the bench and try and get a goal when needed. i think that's the right viewpoint. Just have him as supersub/plan b option for rest of the season. Can come in if Ollie gets injured. It's not what we envisaged for him but plenty of clubs have spent more than 30m on striker in last 5 years and it hasn't worked out at all. At least this signing dosen't feel as desperate as McCormack or Hogan did with things not working out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted January 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2022 I'd have him over Watkins. We talk about letting Buendia and others settle, why not Ings. He has had a very stop start season so far. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, villalad21 said: I'd rather see Watkins hazzle the opponent but having a bad game than watch Ings ghosting Hazzle, I assume you mean hassle. I wouldn’t mind if he did that but Ings does more at the moment. Watkins is just frustrating at the moment with and without the ball. Ings to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: I can't believe people would start him up front over Watkins. Watkins has been played out of position so Ing's can play, yet Ing's isn't doing a stitch. I'd like to see Ollie given the forward role for a few games and see how it pans out. He had it after Ings got injured for a month after Brighton game and we played our best football of the season for 4-5 games. Ollie isn't in great form either but we just play through the final thirds more easily with him in the mix as CF. Ings really isn't a good footballer imo, too slow to pass and technique not amazing when controlling. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I think he’s a more intelligent striker than Watkins and I suspect top play makers like Coutinho or Buendia will be able to get more out of that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, VillaChris said: i think that's the right viewpoint. Just have him as supersub/plan b option for rest of the season. Can come in if Ollie gets injured. It's not what we envisaged for him but plenty of clubs have spent more than 30m on striker in last 5 years and it hasn't worked out at all. At least this signing dosen't feel as desperate as McCormack or Hogan did with things not working out. Swop Ollie for Ings in the bench situation and I’d agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Really I think the difference was less Coutinho and Chukwuemeka coming on and more Ings finally being off the pitch. Addition by Subtraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vazquez Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Unfortunately Ings work rate is not enough, we look like united with Ronaldo or arsenal with auba when he is "pressing" . And he can not hold the ball up either. supersub maybe. Watkins is so much better for our style of play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, nick76 said: Hazzle, I assume you mean hassle. I wouldn’t mind if he did that but Ings does more at the moment. Watkins is just frustrating at the moment with and without the ball. Ings to start. Ings really is a passenger in this team even you have to see that. He doesn't pull his weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, vazquez said: Unfortunately Ings work rate is not enough, we look like united with Ronaldo or arsenal with auba when he is "pressing" . And he can not hold the ball up either. supersub maybe. Watkins is so much better for our style of play. He tried to work hard just doesn't have the legs anymore. Injuries whatever. He seem to be aging really badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I just don't think Ing's suits us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: Ings really is a passenger in this team even you have to see that. He doesn't pull his weight. Completely don’t agree with that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, nick76 said: Easy, even when Ollie has been on his own this season he’s been poor. Definitely start Ings on his own over Ollie. Now we have some quality creators, Ings is the far better finisher. Drop Ollie to the bench. Ollie has had no creativity in and around him. Yes the same could be said of Ing's but his movement is slow as f*** to react. Ollie is much better running in behind defenders imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, nick76 said: Completely don’t agree with that Then don't agree with that. You are entitled to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, villalad21 said: Then don't agree with that. You are entitled to be wrong. Haha you wish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, avfc1982am said: Ollie has had no creativity in and around him. Yes the same could be said of Ing's but his movement is slow as f*** to react. Ollie is much better running in behind defenders imo Ollie is so frustrating, too slow to run in behind, isn’t hassling like last season and his decision making is poor. If we create more, Ings is more likely to score because he’s much the better finisher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) One of our ~30M quid strikers can score, one can press. Not really good enough from either. Both need to have a word with themselves, then help each other instead of whatever the hell is going on right now. Edited January 15, 2022 by ciggiesnbeer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, nick76 said: Ollie is so frustrating, too slow to run in behind, isn’t hassling like last season and his decision making is poor. If we create more, Ings is more likely to score because he’s much the better finisher. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Must admit, I'd rather Watkins upfront for his energy as Ings does seem to tire. Now with Coutinho I'd have Ings on the bench....more energy with this front three: Watkins Coutinho Buendia Ramsey McGinn Luiz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: Really I think the difference was less Coutinho and Chukwuemeka coming on and more Ings finally being off the pitch. Addition by Subtraction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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