KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Nigel said: TBF we have grown so much this season and there were questions he had the time to get to the level we were last year. This post is spot on. With where we are under Emery, we will struggle to integrate youngsters unless they are absolutely top drawer. This isn’t to have a go at the management, it’s simply that when a player gets to a certain age, I think the club is getting more ruthless. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenko#4 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 My FFP knowledge is not the greatest, however am I right in saying that selling Tim with a buyback won’t have the same positive financial implications as the JPB/Ramsey/Archer/Chuk/Grealish deals? I thought that they were classed as pure profit for the books as they were our home grown academy players, but we signed Tim from WBA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 10 hours ago, Jenko#4 said: My FFP knowledge is not the greatest, however am I right in saying that selling Tim with a buyback won’t have the same positive financial implications as the JPB/Ramsey/Archer/Chuk/Grealish deals? I thought that they were classed as pure profit for the books as they were our home grown academy players, but we signed Tim from WBA? It's based on how much remaining "book value" a player has. So players who signed for free or very low fees when sold are booked as the sale price minus the remaining book value. So Tim, Kamara, Tielemans, KKH etc.. all go into our income side of balance sheet as essentially the total sale price of the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Lack of options or some trust by Unai to put Tim on? Either way - good to see him back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 He’s got mahoosive thighs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Did a respectable job with the ball when he came on last night. Some nice passes through the lines and a nice turn at one point. Clear to see he wasn't as forthcoming in offering for a pass off the defence like Kamara and Luiz though. It was the same with Dendonker. They didn't 'hide' from the ball, just didn't take up natural positions to collect of the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Tim certainly didn't look out of place last night. He seems to have way more manoeuvrability around the pitch than Dendoncker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 A ton of pace but more importantly balance. He can get everywhere on the pitch quicker than most. He should be turning into an immensely strong player now at 20 and a half. But with the added finesse few have at his size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 On 27/12/2023 at 00:42, DJBOB said: Lack of options or some trust by Unai to put Tim on? Either way - good to see him back. I think he features against Burnley hence the minutes against utd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 I'd have liked to have seen him come on for Ramsey at HT against United. Try and get some control in the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Is he good enough or just pure profit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eholm Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 7 hours ago, Pongo Waring said: Is he good enough or just pure profit? Not enough of a sample size to judge yet, imo. Has all the attrbutes and had good/steady performances in the Champinhsip. Needs a run of games now but clearly Unai prefers Dendoncker atm. Would be nice to get into a winning position vs Burnley and then be able to give him 30 mins. I assume he wasnt registerd for the UCL...maybe he will be for the KO stages? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted December 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2023 Get him in there alongside Luiz and play McGinn on the left, Bailey on the right and Diaby behind Watkins for Burnley. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East London Villa Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, eholm said: Not enough of a sample size to judge yet, imo. Has all the attrbutes and had good/steady performances in the Champinhsip. Needs a run of games now but clearly Unai prefers Dendoncker atm. Would be nice to get into a winning position vs Burnley and then be able to give him 30 mins. I assume he wasnt registerd for the UCL...maybe he will be for the KO stages? We are at the maximum number of players we can register for the UEFA List A Squad (1/4 club trained players, 4/4 association trained players, 17/17 senior players. We don't have any more club trained players available, so current maximum = 22). The only way Tim gets into the squad for the second half of the season is if we remove a senior player without replacing them. Bertrand Traore is the only player that might fit this profile, because he has hardly featured and has a few players ahead of him for his favoured position. Any other senior player in the squad that leaves in January would require a direct replacement. If Tim stays at Villa for the rest of this season rather than going out on loan in January, he would become a "club trained player" from next season onwards, so we would be able to register him as an extra player for Europe without removing anyone. But they might decide a loan is better for his development. Edited December 29, 2023 by East London Villa 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eholm Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, East London Villa said: We are at the maximum number of players we can register for the UEFA List A Squad (1/4 club trained players, 4/4 association trained players, 17/17 senior players. We don't have any more club trained players available, so current maximum = 22). The only way Tim gets into the squad for the second half of the season is if we remove a senior player without replacing them. Bertrand Traore is the only player that might fit this profile, because he has hardly featured and has a few players ahead of him for his favoured position. Any other senior player in the squad that leaves in January would require a direct replacement. If Tim stays at Villa for the rest of this season rather than going out on loan in January, he would become a "club trained player" from next season onwards, so we would be able to register him as an extra player for Europe without removing anyone. But they might decide a loan is better for his development. Thanks for the info mate. Tim in for Berti would be good imo...and a very good point about the transition for him to 'club trained' player if he stays with us. Interesting decision for Unai... Edited December 29, 2023 by eholm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 I've always liked Tim. I'd be willing to " risk " fixing him a go in the Tielemans or Kamara spot until they come back. Good, balanced player imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powehi Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Should play against Middlesbrough for me. Time to see if he has what it takes to step up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 29/12/2023 at 10:43, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I've always liked Tim. I'd be willing to " risk " fixing him a go in the Tielemans or Kamara spot until they come back. Good, balanced player imo. 6 hours ago, Powehi said: Should play against Middlesbrough for me. Time to see if he has what it takes to step up. Can’t see anything but him going out on loan or sold with a buy back clause now in January. I think if it was anything else we would’ve seen a bit more of him even just more sub minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSvillain Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, nick76 said: Can’t see anything but him going out on loan or sold with a buy back clause now in January. I think if it was anything else we would’ve seen a bit more of him even just more sub minutes. has he not had a torrid time with injuries though? Even with our more experienced players, they have been slowly eased in after a long lay off 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Has Championship experience. Hope he starts tomorrow and shows us what he can bring to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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