JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: Agree. I’ve always liked him. Think he gets way too much unnecessary stick. When he is in this vein, you can see how easily and fluently the skills, movement and intelligence come to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post YLN Posted July 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Jamaica’s front 4 is pretty decent. They should be winning this game. Bailey needs to the ball more. Alright Leon's dad 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Leon looking composed and confident. not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but they are playing against....at best....League 2 quality players (with maybe 1-2 are League 1 standard), not exactly a good gauge for bailey's abilities. Maybe it is tho tbh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, MaVilla said: not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but they are playing against....at best....League 2 quality players (with maybe 1-2 are League 1 standard), not exactly a good gauge for bailey's abilities. Maybe it is tho tbh. That didn't stop people getting excited about archer when he scored against Israeli league players. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, MaVilla said: not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but they are playing against....at best....League 2 quality players (with maybe 1-2 are League 1 standard), not exactly a good gauge for bailey's abilities. Maybe it is tho tbh. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, lexicon said: That didn't stop people getting excited about archer when he scored against Israeli league players. take that up with the ppl that got excited over that then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Archer isn't a first team player, he didn't cost £35m, and is five years younger than Bailey. Also Archer was playing in a competition with some of the best U21 teams and players in Europe, and people weren't getting excited just because he scored against Israel, if he'd have been underwhelming as Bailey as been and scored that goal no one would have gave a rats, they were excited by it because it was another example of how good he's been in general, he also scored against the then current champions Germany. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, useless said: Archer isn't a first team player, he didn't cost £35m, and is five years younger than Bailey. HE wasn't 35 mill. That would make him our record signing, more like 24 - 30 iirc. Edited July 9, 2023 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I dont think baileys going anywhere tbh. Id rather keep him anyway. I know he can be frustrating byt when he is good he is very good 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 8 hours ago, useless said: Archer isn't a first team player, he didn't cost £35m, and is five years younger than Bailey. Also Archer was playing in a competition with some of the best U21 teams and players in Europe, and people weren't getting excited just because he scored against Israel, if he'd have been underwhelming as Bailey as been and scored that goal no one would have gave a rats, they were excited by it because it was another example of how good he's been in general, he also scored against the then current champions Germany. Against a Danish league playing CB and one with almost no senior experience IIRC. And tbh price isn't relevant here - both have to be of a high standard to play for us. Archer scoring for the U21s means less than in the championship, quite a bit less IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 8 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: HE wasn't 35 mill. That would make him our record signing, more like 24 - 30 iirc. 25m plus add ons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, lexicon said: Against a Danish league playing CB and one with almost no senior experience IIRC. And tbh price isn't relevant here - both have to be of a high standard to play for us. Archer scoring for the U21s means less than in the championship, quite a bit less IMO. The same defender that is on the verge of moving to the Champions League runners up? Don’t belittle this achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, Rich192 said: The same defender that is on the verge of moving to the Champions League runners up? Don’t belittle this achievement. Don't be silly. He's a young player with potential, like Archer, who hasn't proved himself in a top league yet - time will tell for both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 'Jamaica and Leon Bailey are Gold Cup semi-finalists'... well done lads that's what I like to hear 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Adam2003 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 On 09/07/2023 at 18:11, lexicon said: That didn't stop people getting excited about archer when he scored against Israeli league players. This is a weird take IMO. I was excited by Aaron Ramsey as a hot youth prospect tearing it up for Boro - I would be less excited by Leon Bailey doing the same thing in the Championship. However, on the flip side, you can only beat what is put in front of you and I can only see positives to Villa in Bailey scoring goals for Jamaica, so more power to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 56 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: Oh shit… bit of a surprise. I suppose with 2 years left… he either isn’t going to sign a new deal (or demands are too high), he’s not highly rated/valued and we want to get a good fee for him while we can… or he wants away? Not willing to be a squad or backup/rotational player? Seemed to be happy with Unai… I didn’t expect it, thought he’d be given a chance to improve and impress further… Oh well, whatever Unai wants. Kind of makes me more excited as to the players we are going to sign and what level they are at… Be good to get the complete truth on this. Sorry @JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Collomosse isn’t really one for making up shite or creating false rumours…quite respected and reputable. But… could he be mistaken or something here? It’s just a short line, no detail or explanation: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12287727/Aston-Villas-transfer-mistakes-warning-Unai-Emery-learned-lesson.html Quote Ings was sold to West Ham barely 18 months later and Bailey is for sale this summer. Of the trio – signed under Dean Smith – only Buendia has been even a qualified success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Collomosse isn’t really one for making up shite or creating false rumours…quite respected and reputable. But… could he be mistaken or something here? It’s just a short line, no detail or explanation: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12287727/Aston-Villas-transfer-mistakes-warning-Unai-Emery-learned-lesson.html I don’t know if it needs much explanation tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted July 12, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Jas10 said: Collomosse isn’t really one for making up shite or creating false rumours…quite respected and reputable. But… could he be mistaken or something here? It’s just a short line, no detail or explanation: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12287727/Aston-Villas-transfer-mistakes-warning-Unai-Emery-learned-lesson.html Seems pretty certain and not speculative. Saying is for sale rather than will listen to offers. Makes it sound like a conversation with Bailey would have been had. In usual Villa fashion though if he’s not in Unai’s plans we probably won’t be able to sell and he’ll be loaned out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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