bobzy Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 FWIW, she does both aspects. She's a young professional who is far more "done up" than the majority of female footballers out there. She's happy to talk to the media, do promos and generally seems very grounded. You can see why a lot of aspiring female footballers would look up to her as she's a "girly girl" doing a sport professionally. At the same time, she's aware that there are sad (most likely) blokes out there who will pay £150 to wank over her backside on a daily and will capitalise on that. It says a lot more about society than Lehmann - I don't particularly blame her for getting dolla out of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 I’ve only seen her play a few times but I’ve never really been that impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 She said in one interview that her social media gives her confidence, or words to that effect. I'm sure she'll realise as she gets older that that's not where genuine confidence comes from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 No issue with anyone monetising their looks if they can. I'd do the same if I looked like her! However, if you are going to do TikToks in your bikini, dance around with Logan Paul and KSI, pose for a calendar in your underwear and charge £50 for it, then people are going to comment on it i'm afraid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 hours ago, grantholtgolazo said: I appreciate that and to be fair, similar comments and jokes are a pattern in this thread. It’s hard to speak on without sounding like a scold but I think it’s important. If this forum is for all Villa teams and all supporters the standard changing room/coarse talk isn’t likely to be welcoming to women & those looking to take women’s football seriously. Thank you. This was the point I was trying to make a few pages back which seemed to end up backfiring and get comments about me thinking I'm holier than thou. I get that she's going to get comments about her social media and I know that, as an example, Grealish has had comments thrown on here about his off-field antics throughout his time at the club. However, people like Grealish do get the old "he needs to do his talking on the pitch now" cliché thrown about, has a couple decent games and no-ones talking about him drink driving, breaking COVID rules a few times, passing out drunk in the street, cheating on whoever he's with at the time every time, etc etc etc. Lehmann gets her social media discussed and then a few weeks or even months go by without anyone even mentioning the appaearances, goals, assists she's getting for our side during a fantastic season. It's just about wow lots of followers, good presence online, good she's in the villa kit in her videos. People talk about her being popular on Tiktok like she's a sales rep for a night club in magaluf. Shortened version is, if I see Watkins not in the side I immediately come on Villatalk to see what's going on, if theres gossip, if he's injured and how long for and how people are feeling about it. If Lehmann is on the bench I come here and the thread is dead and there's nothing online to find. I never come here say when Dali and Pacheco weren't in the side because there's no point, the few people wanting to talk about it are shouting into void. Plus Dali and Pacheco don't even have their own threads despite being really good professionals, Dali a France international 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 On 15/10/2023 at 07:45, Demitri_C said: Look how many followers she has on insta Just to give you context Luiz 999k followers Watkins 378k followers Martinez 13m followers Bailey 731k followers Alsisha 15.6m followers And what does that do for us exactly? 99.9% of her followers either won't know or won't give a shit that she plays for Villa. It's no different to the hot tennis players for example that people follow. I bet they never watch a game or care about their career. I don't begrudge her for milking a bunch of seedy guys for their money and incessantly posting pictures/videos/calendars of her ass. If the money's there, take it. But don't pretend her having followers or fame for being nice to look at does anything whatsoever for the Aston Villa men's team. She barely does anything on the pitch for the women's team. A forward who never scores or gets assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 hours ago, R.Bear said: And what does that do for us exactly? 99.9% of her followers either won't know or won't give a shit that she plays for Villa. It's no different to the hot tennis players for example that people follow. I bet they never watch a game or care about their career. I don't begrudge her for milking a bunch of seedy guys for their money and incessantly posting pictures/videos/calendars of her ass. If the money's there, take it. But don't pretend her having followers or fame for being nice to look at does anything whatsoever for the Aston Villa men's team. She barely does anything on the pitch for the women's team. A forward who never scores or gets assists. This is completely incorrect. Having widely popular footballers in your squad has been important for decades. Social media is just the way that celebrities connect with their fans in 2023. There's a reason sports teams employ social media divisions and put a lot of effort into getting followers. She posts loads of Villa content, it's most of what goes on her insta, with football related stories basically every day. That's 15,000,000 people who might never have thought about Aston Villa having Aston Villa in their social media feed every day. When we complain that we have no chance to match the global reach of the sky 6, having a prominent, popular player like Lehmann helps to bridge that gap. Lehmann gives us access to fans that otherwise wouldn't consider us. Awareness brings in new fans, new fans means more money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, ThunderPower_14 said: This is completely incorrect. Having widely popular footballers in your squad has been important for decades. Social media is just the way that celebrities connect with their fans in 2023. There's a reason sports teams employ social media divisions and put a lot of effort into getting followers. She posts loads of Villa content, it's most of what goes on her insta, with football related stories basically every day. That's 15,000,000 people who might never have thought about Aston Villa having Aston Villa in their social media feed every day. When we complain that we have no chance to match the global reach of the sky 6, having a prominent, popular player like Lehmann helps to bridge that gap. Lehmann gives us access to fans that otherwise wouldn't consider us. Awareness brings in new fans, new fans means more money. You mean fit/attractive in the highlighted sentence. People are a bit nieve, or just don't like to admit, she's popular for her looks and sections of her instagram, more than her football. Look at any other attractive footballer, Alessia Russo for example only has 780k followers. Lehmann knows the game, there's nothing wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robtaylor200 Posted November 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) OK. I am not joking about this Its true On FB I am in a couple of Villa groups I have noticed lately that Alisha clicks love on almost everything that I and anyone else posts I have gone to the link and it is her photos etc but only has about 10 friends. So I expect spam and have blocked her Blocked Alisha Lehmann lol. But I have now blocked her three times and she is still stalking me Edited November 12, 2023 by Robtaylor200 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 At the Chelsea game last week, there was a couple sat behind me and from what I overheard they were only there to see Lehmann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) On 22/10/2023 at 16:29, ThunderPower_14 said: If you're such an expert on how social media works you wouldn't need it explained to you how and why it does benefit us. 15,000,000 people who wouldn't otherwise be exposed to Aston Villa are exposed to us in a positive light, every day. Firstly, it's not 15m people. At least half of those followers will be bots. Secondly, I'm not sure getting exposure to our club through a glorified model is the type of road we should be going down to promote our club. I'd rather it was done, in terms of the women's team, through their success on the pitch. Lehmann didnt even get off the bench yesterday and we gave her a three year contract. I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the squad are slightly aggrieved by the overexposure she gets because its never for anything she does on the pitch. It's hardly a great message to send to our young female fans is it? That it doesnt matter if you're a good player or play well for the team, as long as you look nice, you will get all the exposure and promotion. Edited November 13, 2023 by R.Bear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, R.Bear said: Firstly, it's not 15m people. At least half of those followers will be bots. Secondly, I'm not sure getting exposure to our club through a glorified model is the type of road we should be going down to promote our club. I'd rather it was done, in terms of the women's team, through their success on the pitch. Lehmann didnt even get off the bench yesterday and we gave her a three year contract. I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the squad are slightly aggrieved by the overexposure she gets because its never for anything she does on the pitch. It's hardly a great message to send to our young female fans is it? That it doesnt matter if you're a good player or play well for the team, as long as you look nice, you will get all the exposure and promotion. You can feel however you want to feel about it, it's a reality of modern elite level football that we need to reach as wide as possible an audience. Her social media might attract people who are following for her looks but those people also see the 2/3s of her posts that are football related. You're talking like we're sacrificing on-field performance to have her in the squad which is ridiculous, she's a good footballer and has played regularly for us since we signed her because she's a good footballer. You're talking about her teammates getting frustrated with her but you have no evidence of that, you're simply projecting your own bias onto our women's team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, ThunderPower_14 said: You can feel however you want to feel about it, it's a reality of modern elite level football that we need to reach as wide as possible an audience. Her social media might attract people who are following for her looks but those people also see the 2/3s of her posts that are football related. You're talking like we're sacrificing on-field performance to have her in the squad which is ridiculous, she's a good footballer and has played regularly for us since we signed her because she's a good footballer. You're talking about her teammates getting frustrated with her but you have no evidence of that, you're simply projecting your own bias onto our women's team. Ironically you talk about projecting yet you've just projected several things I didnt say on me. I am aware of the commercialisation of modern football thanks. She's a bang average footballer. She's a forward who doesnt score or get assists. She doesnt play for Switzerland and has been dropped by Villa, because she hasn't been playing well. In regards to her teammates, I said very clearly "I wouldn't be surprised if...". Nowhere did I say it was happening. But it has happened at basically every sports team in the world since the dawn of sports. Players who get undue attention for other reasons irritates other players who are performing much better but don't get the attention. Not just sport, every line of work. The bottom line is, there are people in this thread almost celebrating that we have Lehmann for her supposed commercial benefits to our club. If we switch it up and it was one of the men's players who was not performing, warming the bench, releasing calendars in sexy poses, constantly uploading suggestive pictures on their social media and having a paid subscription service of pictures and videos, what do you think the reaction of the fanbase would be? Let's be honest, you know damn well what it would be. Edited November 13, 2023 by R.Bear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 How many of these posts are actually football related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, R.Bear said: The bottom line is, there are people in this thread almost celebrating that we have Lehmann for her supposed commercial benefits to our club. If we switch it up and it was one of the men's players who was not performing, warming the bench, releasing calendars in sexy poses, constantly uploading suggestive pictures on their social media and having a paid subscription service of pictures and videos, what do you think the reaction of the fanbase would be? Let's be honest, you know damn well what it would be. Very few men are able to attract a massive social media following purely based on their sexy looks. If they have a lot of followers it is because they are amazing football players, like Messi or Ronaldo. So if we had a male player with a large social media following that was warming the bench, it would mean we have re-hired Gerrard again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, viivvaa66 said: Very few men are able to attract a massive social media following purely based on their sexy looks. If they have a lot of followers it is because they are amazing football players, like Messi or Ronaldo. So if we had a male player with a large social media following that was warming the bench, it would mean we have re-hired Gerrard again. Just you wait until John McGinn starts selling his calendar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Trez = 9.5m instagram followers Samatta = 2.3m instagram followers Lehmann = 16m instagram followers Trez + Samatta = 0.74Lehmanns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 13, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2023 Please stick to discussing the footballer, not fake media accounts, nor arguing with each other about social media. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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