sidcow Posted December 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, mykeyb said: So if you are a Red Bull fan you are weird? You're probably off your tits on caffeine and excess sugar. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, desensitized43 said: I don’t think it’s that kind of corruption. It’s incompetence. He saw the race finishing under a safety car or not having a neck and neck finish as something to be avoided and in the process made a snap decision that was against the rules of the sport, creating an almighty mess. If he’d have stuck to the rules we’d have had a boring finish, moans from red bull but ultimately it wouldn’t have become this unseemly mess. Not really. Would have still been exciting seeing if Max could get through the traffic with 1 lap to go, tense is a understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, tinker said: Could be used again, you could even get your team mate to stop/ crash/ breakdown and instigate the safety car to allow the gap to close . Good point. I wonder if anyone has every analysed races to see if something like this has happened. Teams could have a code word to instruct their driver to do something. I mean it's obviously ludicrous as the driver would be putting themselves in deliberate danger, but yes it absolutely could be used to manipulate a race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, foreveryoung said: Not really. Would have still been exciting seeing if Max could get through the traffic with 1 lap to go, tense is a understatement. I think we all know that wouldn’t have happened. He wouldn’t have been able to get through the traffic and then take on Hamilton. Still, you can’t just invent rules because you want to make the sport more exciting. That way lies madness and proper corruption. FWIW, I also think they got the decision wrong at the start to let Hamilton off when he went (was forced) off the track. It’s all just a bit of a shitshow isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, mykeyb said: So if you are a Red Bull fan you are weird? So you admit you’re baiting in this thread then jump all over it when I do it? Come on man Edited December 12, 2021 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, sidcow said: Good point. I wonder if anyone has every analysed races to see if something like this has happened. Teams could have a code word to instruct their driver to do something. I mean it's obviously ludicrous as the driver would be putting themselves in deliberate danger, but yes it absolutely could be used to manipulate a race. Crashgate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, sne said: Fwiw I'm pretty certain that the ones footing the bill for this spectacle dd not want the race and championship to end on a yellow flag and damp squib. We might get to hear Masi on the phone with the team bosses but we certainly will not hear the calls he gets from the ones who runs the show. That last lap was hardly a spectacle though was it? Guy on a new set of soft tyres overtakes guy on a set of 45 lap old hard tyres. I’m not sure that’s the spectacle people wanted to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, sidcow said: You're probably off your tits on caffeine and excess sugar. Good job I am a anyone but Lewis fan then. Merry Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, sidcow said: Good point. I wonder if anyone has every analysed races to see if something like this has happened. Teams could have a code word to instruct their driver to do something. I mean it's obviously ludicrous as the driver would be putting themselves in deliberate danger, but yes it absolutely could be used to manipulate a race. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, tom_avfc said: That last lap was hardly a spectacle though was it? Guy on a new set of soft tyres overtakes guy on a set of 45 lap old hard tyres. I’m not sure that’s the spectacle people wanted to see. Compared to a yellow flag procession finish I'd say it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, a m ole said: So you admit you’re baiting in this thread then jump all over it when I do it? Come on man Uh, I just asked a question, chill out. Your guy was robbed, not my fault and not the fault of Red Bull fans either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, mykeyb said: Uh, I just asked a question, chill out. Your guy was robbed, not my fault and not the fault of Red Bull fans either. I don’t have a guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Farlz said: Crashgate. Who was that again? Some dude deliberately stuck in the wall in Monaco or something, wasn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, tom_avfc said: That last lap was hardly a spectacle though was it? Guy on a new set of soft tyres overtakes guy on a set of 45 lap old hard tyres. I’m not sure that’s the spectacle people wanted to see. It's very much a damp squib because it's not clear cut. Whatever decision is made won't help either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, mykeyb said: It's very much a damp squib because it's not clear cut. Whatever decision is made won't help either. Yeah there isn’t really a satisfactory way to end the season now. Ridiculous that the decision was made to get to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Panto_Villan said: Who was that again? Some dude deliberately stuck in the wall in Monaco or something, wasn’t it? Nelson Piquet Jr at Singapore. Gave Alonso a huge advantage to go on and win. Edited December 12, 2021 by Farlz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phil Silvers Posted December 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just had a cup of tea with 4 rich tea biscuits to dunk and it's made no difference. Fuming. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, mykeyb said: So if you are a Red Bull fan you are weird? Yes but thats not F1 related 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 36 minutes ago, sidcow said: I do wonder at what point some of the sponsors start getting edgy. You've got what clearly is a highly controversial decision entirely designed to engineer not only the outcome of a race but the entire championship. Something that smells out outright corruption. And then refuse to do anything to rectify it. If I was a sponsor I would be having serious doubts about if this was an organisation I would want to have my name plastered all over. as long as the cash keeps rolling in they wont care though will they. Going to be interesting to see if anything is done, but i also would be shocked if they didnt just brush it under the carpet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, MaVilla said: as long as the cash keeps rolling in they wont care though will they. Going to be interesting to see if anything is done, but i also would be shocked if they didnt just brush it under the carpet. Surely next season will be a bigger financial blockbuster after this as more people will be interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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