sne Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: How can F1 be managed in such an amateur way? It's an absolute joke. I mean they hold races in some of the worst regimes in the world because money. Them making dodgy calls in races is hardly out of character. It's a shit business. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, foreveryoung said: On another note Newcastle are about gone I would say. 3-0 L Leicester You mean 4? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Genie said: Race result and something else. The race didn’t restart within the rules, last unlapped car had not passed when the safety car came in. Seems like a clear foul. Yes that will be the basis of their appeal, but are they appealing to those who made the decisions already, if so can't see that being successful. Are F1 going to want to take the title of Max no it's been awarded, it will make a mockery of the sport and Masi has already done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Farlz said: We're not gonna get any laps racing Blessed Lewis has done it again Not as blessed as your mate Max apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted December 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, a m ole said: So it was Ricciardo denied the chance to race Vettel and Leclerc infront of him. Obviously slim chance but could have meant an extra point for McLaren. So would have made no difference to the driver or constructor championship, but still seems unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) Not checked this but sounds bang on. Edited December 12, 2021 by Phil Silvers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Lichfield Dean said: So would have made no difference to the driver or constructor championship, but still seems unfair. Yeah of course, but it’s not the point really, rules are rules. You don’t not let them race just because it’s over, imagine finishing a football match early because a team are 4 up. edit; or finishing the season and not playing Villa vs Wolves on the last day because 1-7th and 18-20th are decided. It’s the absolute opposite of ‘racing’ Edited December 12, 2021 by a m ole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: Good to appeal, Masi has effectively asked the guy leading the race by 13 seconds to slow down to let the guy in 2nd place to go in for fresh tyres and then wait for him to pull side by side and then start the race. Spot on. I think this is the crux of it alongside the race officials not following their own rules. It’s put a huge cloud over the ending of what was a great season up to this last moment. A real shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Farlz said: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS So well deserved having a 15 second lead eroded on a plate for him. The hollowest of hollow victories. Blessed Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: Not checked this but sounds bang on This is what Sky said. The safety car should come in the lap after the FINAL unlapped car has passed. Edited December 12, 2021 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Farlz Posted December 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, sidcow said: Not as blessed as your mate Max apparently. Deserved a bit of luck finally. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Hearing happening now after Mercedes lodge protest within the required 30 mins after race end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Ingram85 said: Spot on. I think this is the crux of it alongside the race officials not following their own rules. It’s put a huge cloud over the ending of what was a great season up to this last moment. A real shame. Brilliant season spoilt by rules and regs being manipulated, see other football - VAR and the he's gone threads, anywhere there is big money, there is corruption. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, Farlz said: Deserved a bit of luck finally. He had enough luck not getting more penalties for his erratic racing, dangerous at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Even if Mercedes win, it'll probably be compensation and Masi to lose his job. The Champion will still be Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Genie said: This is what Sky said. The safety car should come in the lap after the FINAL unlapped car has passed. Yes, crikey, I cannot see how F1 can put this right without looking any worse then they do already today. A crying shame after such a good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 that finale was either incompetence, corruption, or both. What makes it even funnier, is the reverence shown to Red Bull. I mean, you are all racing in a championship where the team like Mercedes, Ferrari etc showcase their ability, trying to prove they are the best and most advanced car makers in the world......... but F1 quite like supporting a high sugar and caffeine drinks company which doesnt build cars at all lol..........maybe Red Bull need to start building cars. Anyway, the situation was a clear and obviously break of the rules, what happened has never ever been done before and broke the regulations. I dont see anything changing though, the FIA wont rule against itself, would anyone actually expect an outcome which changes anything?, i wont be holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Farlz said: Deserved a bit of luck finally. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: Yes, crikey, I cannot see how F1 can put this right without looking any worse then they do already today. A crying shame after such a good season. I thought that when they said no cars would be allowed to unlap themselves Michael Masi: hold my beer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted December 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2021 If the FAI don't stick to their own rules then doesnt it go to a arbitration? Maybe the race result will be voided or finished early. It's such a shame that it's come to this over the confusion caused by poor decisions made outside of racing , Hopefully Max gets to celebrate his win but I fear the worst tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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