villa4europe Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Klopp moaning about squads and subs every game won't be letting his most versatile player leave And of course were not a title rival, what we are is a young team, playing good football on both sides of the ball who on their day can give the whole league a game, we'd be an attractive proposition for any loan that we wanted, we're not a direct rival but we can beat the rivals, Liverpool giving us milner could actually strengthen their own title push And if he leaves in the summer his agents phone would be red hot, should number 1 on the list for all the newly promoted clubs, break the bank and get him, all of the relegation threatened clubs, and then the likes of arsenal who have professionalism problems As for us I think he'd have been a key signing last Jan with our problems but this Jan I'm not so sure, I dont think we need him if I'm honest, he'd be a luxury for us, a good old head on the training pitch who we'd get a lot from there but not so much on a Saturday afternoon, he'd be 4th choice CM and at this stage of his career that'd be no good for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 53 minutes ago, sne said: Apparently a number of unnamed PL clubs have been scouting Grimsby Town CB Mattie Pollock. Dear McGrath let us be one of them. The puns, it will be glorious. He’s ex Middlesbrough and Man City midfielder Jamie Pollocks son. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Villan4Life said: He’s ex Middlesbrough and Man City midfielder Jamie Pollocks son. Is he someone you've watched? Any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Villan4Life said: He’s ex Middlesbrough and Man City midfielder Jamie Pollocks son. Let himself go a tad Edited December 30, 2020 by thabucks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Greedy and unrealistic to want both Michael Olise and Mohammed Daramy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, A'Villan said: With just under half the season behind us, and only two wins between us and Liverpool on the table, and a margin of ten goals in our favour between the two sides, five in the cup, five in the PL, I'd say whether anybody believes we're as good as them, or whether or not we feel because recent history suggests we are miles apart in status, we don't deserve to be called a rival. Well, the truth is, by meaning and definition, we are just that, Liverpool's rivals. Struggling to see it? Let me riddle you this. Our decade of misery has come to an end, whether it be briefly or ultimately, it's taken a hiatus for the now. It has been replaced with a competitive and strong outfit, whom are ready to take on the league, and anybody who makes up the numbers in it. So, with that in mind, how do we define this season? By the misery and shortcomings of the last decade, or by what's been laid before us all? Of course, the here and now defines this season. And this season we are currently fifth and in European placing, two wins from first place, which is currently held by a team we've only beaten this campaign, by a sum of ten goals. That, my friends, is definition of a rival. We are not even half way through the season yet, and these are the things we would take the piss out of opposition fans for. We are doing extremely well and all signs are positive but there is a thin line between acknowledgement and delusion IMO. We very well could finish top 6, top 4, win the league etc. who knows. Equally we could also go on a bad run and finish Bottom 10. Premature delusions of grandeur is just setting ourselves up for failure, disappointment and pisstaking if it goes the other way. I highly doubt last season the top 6 viewed Sheffield United or Wolves as a long term " Rival " , granted our status/ceiling is much stronger than Sheffield etc. but as an example. Obviously these things can change but way too premature currently. It takes consistency and more than 14 games of a season to suddenly be considered a serious rival to the likes of current Premier League and European Champions. Edited December 30, 2020 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted December 30, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 30, 2020 17 hours ago, av1 said: The lad from Reading seems to be getting a lot a praise Bielsa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: We are not even half way through the season yet, and these are the things we would take the piss out of opposition fans for. We are doing extremely well and all signs are positive but their is a thin line between acknowledgement and delusion IMO. We very well could finish top 6, top 4, win the league etc who knows. Equally we could also go on a bad run and finish Bottom 10. Premature delusions of grandeur is just setting ourselves up for failure, dissappointment and pisstaking if it goes the other way. I highly doubt last season the top 6 viewed Sheffield United or Wolves as a long term " Rival " , granted our status/celing is much stronger than Sheffield etc but as an example. Obviously these things can change but way too premature currently. It takes consistency and more than 14 games of a season to suddenly be considered a serious rival to the likes of current Premier League and European Champions. I dont think we will understand what this team is until we have a full season under our belt. The signs are good, we have good balance, a young developing team and creating chances, couple that with willing and capable owners it is exciting and understandable to start dreaming. From here top 6 is achievable but a massive ask given the experience and resources of others at that end of the table. Top half has to be expected now surely, bottom half would be a disappointment given our start, position and level of performance so far. What is clear though is our squad needs quality on the bench and competition which we just dont have and that is a clear differentiator to the traditional top 6 sides. That is going to take quote a few years with FFP. Hats off to the whole club for their planning, bravery and what we have achieved so far, it bodes well and allows us to dream once more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Mr.Messy said: There will be no signings from overseas. Isn't there currently a ban on anyone leaving the UK? I can't see many choosing to enter this country/travel either. I predict a very boring transfer window. There isn’t a travel ban on leaving the UK, just certain countries banning the entry of UK citizens (broadly). So it’s perfectly possible for EU players to fly into the UK and then be allowed back into their respective EU country. Ultimately money talks and so if a deal works the current flight restrictions largely won’t matter. What the rules will be in mid/end Jan who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 hours ago, A'Villan said: Struggling to see it? Let me riddle you this. Our decade of misery has come to an end, whether it be briefly or ultimately, it's taken a hiatus for the now. It has been replaced with a competitive and strong outfit, whom are ready to take on the league, and anybody who makes up the numbers in it. So, with that in mind, how do we define this season? By the misery and shortcomings of the last decade, or by what's been laid before us all? Of course, the here and now defines this season. And this season we are currently fifth and in European placing, two wins from first place, which is currently held by a team we've only beaten this campaign, by a sum of ten goals. That, my friends, is definition of a rival. We're absolutely not a rival of Liverpool's - that is beyond delusions of grandeur stuff. We're having a very good season but could easily be mid table after our next 3 games (Man Utd, Spurs, Everton). What we are is a competitive side in the league this season. We could finish top half if we keep it up which would be excellent given where we were 2 seasons ago. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: We are not even half way through the season yet, and these are the things we would take the piss out of opposition fans for. We are doing extremely well and all signs are positive but their is a thin line between acknowledgement and delusion IMO. We very well could finish top 6, top 4, win the league etc who knows. Equally we could also go on a bad run and finish Bottom 10. Premature delusions of grandeur is just setting ourselves up for failure, dissappointment and pisstaking if it goes the other way. I highly doubt last season the top 6 viewed Sheffield United or Wolves as a long term " Rival " , granted our status/celing is much stronger than Sheffield etc but as an example. Obviously these things can change but way too premature currently. It takes consistency and more than 14 games of a season to suddenly be considered a serious rival to the likes of current Premier League and European Champions. very good post. In all honesty, for me: Top 4 - almost impossible, but if achieved would be the best performance from a Villa manager/team since i have supported them. Top 6 - would be dreamland stuff also tbh, again i think its highly unlikely. 7th to 8th - Would be an amazing season, way above expectations. 9th to 10th - This would be what i would probably class as a "very good second season for us". 11th to 12th - For where we are currently, this would probably be acceptable, but still ok considering last season, and only our second season back in the prem. 13th to 14th - probably below expectation, but also not the end of the world. 15th to 17th - failure in terms of outcome versus early form (first 15 odd games), only a success in terms of avoiding relegation. 18th to 20th - i dont think we will be relegated, so eh. Honestly, i think we will probably finish somewhere between 8th and 12th, and i would be happy with that for our second season. Edited December 30, 2020 by MaVilla 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Who out of this list in this article would you like to join Villa in January or the Summer and who would be a real possibility of agreeing to sign with us you reckon. Article: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-transfer-news-rumours-19538552 28 Players names in that Article: La Liga Lionel Messi - Barcelona Sergio Ramos - Real Madrid Lucas Vazquez - Real Madrid Franco Vazquez - Sevilla Tomas Vaclik - Sevilla Bundesliga David Alaba - Bayern Munich Jerome Boateng - Bayern Munich Javi Martinez - Bayern Munich Robin Quaison - Mainz Rani Khedira - FC Augsburg Yannick Gerhardt - Wolfsburg Serie A Hakan Calhanoglu - AC Milan Arkadiusz Milik - Napoli Henrikh Mkhitaryan - Roma Nikola Maksimovic - Napoli Elseid Hysaj - Napoli Danilo D’Ambrosio - Inter Milan Nicolas N’Koulou - Torino Ligue 1 Memphis Depay - Lyon Angel Di Maria - PSG Florian Thauvin - Marseille Juan Bernat - PSG Jordan Amavi - Marseille Kenny Lala - Strasbourg Youssouf Sabaly - Bordeaux Pablo - Bordeaux Stevan Jovetic - AS Monaco Pedro Mendes - Montpellier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Couple of those obviously impossible for us to sign while others are not good enough but Florian Thauvin & Robin Quaison would not be bad pick ups. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted December 30, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 30, 2020 Sign all the Jordan's on that list. Also, I reckon Depay would be a good fit. Zero chance of either, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, ozvillafan said: Sign all the Jordan's on that list. Also, I reckon Depay would be a good fit. Zero chance of either, though. Bring Amavi home. lol Got no clue how he has been doing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Arsenal today been linked to Jovic and Isco. Are we signing either of them? Even with their two wins they're still a bottom half team so miles off Liverpool's standing. I think there's a middle ground regarding signings and we're starting to rise up the ranks now getting in Barkley. Obviously we'll continue looking at championship as that's actually served us well in last two years (Cash, Watkins, Konsa etc) but think we can start signing better players from european teams now as Leicester and Wolves have done over last 3 years. Lots of good players in Italy and France as listed above who'd improve our squad and first 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 42 minutes ago, sne said: Couple of those obviously impossible for us to sign while others are not good enough but Florian Thauvin & Robin Quaison would not be bad pick ups. Milik fits the bill of targetman striker with excellent pedigree although don't think he's been the same since he got a bad injury a few years ago? That sort of signing would again scream big ambition. Still only 26 and 11 goals in Serie A last season plus hat trick in champions league. No idea what's happened this season as only games he's seemed to have played is for Poland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Bring Amavi home. lol Got no clue how he has been doing. He got called up by France and played in europa final a year after leaving us so doing o.k. He'd be a brilliant fit in a DS team imo but Targett is doing pretty well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Milik fits the bill of targetman striker with excellent pedigree although don't think he's been the same since he got a bad injury a few years ago? That sort of signing would again scream big ambition. Still only 26 and 11 goals in Serie A last season plus hat trick in champions league. No idea what's happened this season as only games he's seemed to have played is for Poland. Yup, but I think we are not quite at his level yet. Clubs like Atletico Madrid, Juve, Spurs and Everton are interested apparently. But he's not a impossible signing. He's not been registered this season by Napoli after a falling out when he didn't get a move this summer. He's currently on about £80k/w at Napoli and I think he'll want a lot more from his next club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, sne said: Yup, but I think we are not quite at his level yet. Clubs like Atletico Madrid, Juve, Spurs and Everton are interested apparently. But he's not a impossible signing. He's not been registered this season by Napoli after a falling out when he didn't get a move this summer. He's currently on about £80k/w at Napoli and I think he'll want a lot more from his next club. Yeah heard Juve last summer but they signed Morata instead so assume that ends their interest while Ronaldo is still playing. Spurs maybe but he'd just be backup there which is why they've never signed anyone decent as they know Kane will also start when fit. Think it's worth asking the question for six month loan (although being out of contract probably stops that) as he'll surely want to play somewhere to get more up to speed for the euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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