Peter Griffin Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 hours ago, MaVilla said: i think it was 17m + 2m in add ons. Not sure if any of the 2m was triggered ofc. Unless the add ons were for extra mins on the bench I doubt they were triggered 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: I havent seen nothing yet from Bailey apart from his debut, to say he is any better than Traore. So what have you seen then? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WooJung Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 hours ago, The_Steve said: He only managed 187 minutes last season. Only fair he’s shipped out. And won us a penalty, which in my book is worth a goal contribution and is basically an assist, if the penalty is scored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 hours ago, CVByrne said: But what are we supposed to do? Play him ahead of other players we all agree are better? Same with Sanson. The midfield problem is not the players we are playing it's the system where they cover fullbacks. The problem in midfield is just as much the players that are playing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Tom13 said: The problem in midfield is just as much the players that are playing there. I don't agree. JJ Kamara and McGinn are a good trio if they didn't have to spread so wide to cover the fullbacks. If instead the fullbacks covered them getting forward. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: I don't agree. JJ Kamara and McGinn are a good trio if they didn't have to spread so wide to cover the fullbacks. If instead the fullbacks covered them getting forward. Kamara yes. JJ will be (but shouldn't be played alongside someone else who's also not a calm presence on the ball). McGinn no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, CVByrne said: I don't agree. JJ Kamara and McGinn are a good trio if they didn't have to spread so wide to cover the fullbacks. If instead the fullbacks covered them getting forward. We're getting off-topic, but I disagree entirely. Who is the creative link to the forwards in that trio? McGinn and JJ aren't the best passers and Kamara usually stays deep. Among the current midfielders, you need Dougie in there. Let him finally be the 8 he is. Whether to put him instead of JJ or McGinn would depend on the opposition and the game situation. EDIT/ADDITION: Also, McGinn and JJ are not really covering for the fullbacks anymore, at least not in all situations like they were earlier in SG's reign. Edited August 22, 2022 by TomC Addition 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just like Sanson frozen out puzzling considering our midfield and form. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 At least he gets European football this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 On 26/08/2022 at 18:07, a-k said: At least he gets European football this year Yeah. Assume he didn't make the bench in that game as he wasn't eligible for the playoff? Also assume they'll be able to register him for the actual competition? Should get his first appearance for them tomorrow, be interested to see how he gets on, and how much of a mistake we've made in letting him go out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 I don't rate him as highly as others do but I think its mad that the best he can get is a loan out to Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) At least he is entertaining which would make a change from the turgid shite that is being served up at present. I think football is supposed to be fun but I tend to forget that when watching Villa. Edited September 2, 2022 by The Fun Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 15 minute cameo to debut 1 assist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 I'm convinced we are taking a leaf out of the Chelsea playbook when loaning players out. I think we're getting good loan fee's and wages covered when we send players out. It works well for our accounts as all a player ever is on our accounts is an annual cost, wages + amortisation. I think Bert will do great in Turkey and a lot more clubs will be interested in signing him next summer when he's got 1 year left for around £6m-8m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: I'm convinced we are taking a leaf out of the Chelsea playbook when loaning players out. I think we're getting good loan fee's and wages covered when we send players out. It works well for our accounts as all a player ever is on our accounts is an annual cost, wages + amortisation. I think Bert will do great in Turkey and a lot more clubs will be interested in signing him next summer when he's got 1 year left for around £6m-8m Spend near 20m on a player give him his biggest salary and loan him out to a club in a league that can't match his salary or initial fee. It's genius stuff it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Spend near 20m on a player give him his biggest salary and loan him out to a club in a league that can't match his salary or initial fee. It's genius stuff it is. Is that for Traore or Carney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Is that for Traore or Carney? Whilst that theoretical situation is mostly true of both Carney and Traore (Carney hasn't been loaned out yet but not loaning him out just costs them more) ... Chelsea are still doing it right as that player will almost certainly be worth more than they paid for him if they sell him in 3-4 years time. Traore was never going to be worth more then we paid for him. Some signings like that are fine. Signings that you then loan out are not. We signed too many right wingers at the same time, and then exacerbated matters by not playing any wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Did well in his Europa League game last week. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Pure class 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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