alreadyexists Posted May 6, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted May 6, 2023 On 02/05/2023 at 10:15, rodders0223 said: As a new father to a 3 month old still doing the feeds from 2am I do wonder if PL footballers are actually doing this to be honest. We can all be a zombie at work for a few months and muddle through but you can't really as an elite level sportsman. I totally agree, I often think that. But I suppose they can afford nannies and day care and night servants… so maybe it isn’t as bad for them!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 It feels like his form has dropped off the edge of a cliff. In terms of goals it has . And by one metric he really has Whoscored.. 7 74 average over the 10 games up to Newcastle. 6.3 in the 4 games since. Chop his cock off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Baby Watkins has done us in at the end 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Maybe he's dipped a bit or maybe teams have worked out if you stop Watkins you stop Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Don’t worry - Emery is clearly sabotaging Ollie’s performances to give Villa the upper hand in salary negotiations. Once the contract is signed he’ll be unstoppable again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 5 hours ago, PaulC said: Maybe he's dipped a bit or maybe teams have worked out if you stop Watkins you stop Villa Tbh in a few of those games he has hardly seen the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digavilla Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Watkins is not clinical enough to be a premiership top striker, he still need few chances to put away one.. Now that teams are defending deep against us a Europe chasing team, chances will be far and few between. He had one big chance and headed straight at their keeper, where else Kane put it in the corner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Back to being inconsistent Another reason why we need anothee good striker. Competition for places is key so when pllie plays as shit as he has today he is danger of being dropped. How many crap performancers does kane put in? Even when spurs are bad he still performs or will have 1 bad in 10.ollie will have 3 or 4 bad in a row 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 41 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Back to being inconsistent Another reason why we need anothee good striker. Competition for places is key so when pllie plays as shit as he has today he is danger of being dropped. How many crap performancers does kane put in? Even when spurs are bad he still performs or will have 1 bad in 10.ollie will have 3 or 4 bad in a row Agreed and I don’t mind him having inconsistency occasionally because when he’s good, he’s really good but he does have spells both in runs and sometimes during games that we need another striker to compete with him, a different option, to push him and to make sure that the team isn’t impacted when he goes through his patches. Our first XI is good but we do need better around the team and in positions like Ollie where he is the main striker we need quality options to cover periods like now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 50 minutes ago, nick76 said: Agreed and I don’t mind him having inconsistency occasionally because when he’s good, he’s really good but he does have spells both in runs and sometimes during games that we need another striker to compete with him, a different option, to push him and to make sure that the team isn’t impacted when he goes through his patches. Our first XI is good but we do need better around the team and in positions like Ollie where he is the main striker we need quality options to cover periods like now. Yep for sure. No matter how bad he plays emery isnt going to drop him for duran that's not going to happen. Now if you have a tammy or vlahovic pushing him he wont get away with having 3-4 poor games. Ollie misses so many chances 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 I don’t know if it’s the new born or he’s let the hype get to his head but he’s been pretty abject since he tore Newcastle apart and was being lauded as one of the best in the division. Either way it needs sorting out, he’s just not pressing or challenging for the ball in the same way, he needs that intensity in order to prevail, he’s not good enough to play at 80% and still be effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Sure Ollie has dropped off a bit in these last 4 games, but so has the rest of the team. If he was missing a hatful of chances, or the rest of the team bar him was performing to a high standard then I’d be concerned, but we’re not creating a great deal for him currently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 He has many strengths. 'Box' play isn't a big strength of his. Buendia had the ball on the edge of the area so many times yesterday, where was Ollie offering a linkup option? I can barely remember him touching the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 13 hours ago, Digavilla said: Watkins is not clinical enough to be a premiership top striker, he still need few chances to put away one.. Now that teams are defending deep against us a Europe chasing team, chances will be far and few between. He had one big chance and headed straight at their keeper, where else Kane put it in the corner. Yes I would agree with you. Ollie is improving of this there is little doubt, however in my view he has a ceiling and like you I don’t feel it’s that of an elite striker. He was never going to keep the scoring run going - so I am not overly concerned. He is getting better, and for now I’ll take this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Sigh. I hope this is a blip and we have turned a corner with him rather than the other way around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, Spoony said: Sigh. I hope this is a blip and we have turned a corner with him rather than the other way around. I think he needs a better supporting cast than Buendia and Bailey tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 all top strikers miss chances. The importance is getting into the positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Needs to get back to running around and chasing everything. Him just staying up now adds nothing to the team and it's like playing with 10 men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pinebro said: Needs to get back to running around and chasing everything. Him just staying up now adds nothing to the team and it's like playing with 10 men. But when he was running around and chasing everything he wasn’t as effective goal scoring wise than when Emery made him stay centrally. He started drifting wide too much against Wolves and was ineffective or nonexistent in front of goal. Emery was right to make him stay centrally. He just needs to make himself more of a presence/pest in central areas when he’s not scoring. Edited May 8, 2023 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Just now, nick76 said: But when he was running around and chasing everything he wasn’t as effective goal scoring wise than when Emery made him stay centrally. He started drifting wide too much against Wolves and was ineffective or nonexistent in front of goal. Emery was right to make him stay centrally. It doesn't matter who scores the goals as long as we get the goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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