paul514 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, hippo said: Does it ? - how do you work that out ? .. Well last season was 144 million on transfers if I remember correctly? If that was the limit then with the 13m a year max losses allowed in the Championship (remember we have to still take two years of that loss limit into account), I am not sure what the Premier League loss allowed per season is now but it used to be 35m. So that raises the budget in theory but our wage bill is presumably significantly higher than the last year of the championship making it fall back down.... hence why I said 120-150m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, rayk said: Thanks Paul for missing the entire point. FWIW, I do like Buendia but I reckon the ‘scouts’ think he’s too slow. Anything to mention who we should be signing, If I will it, they might come Edited September 5, 2020 by paul514 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 You want me to put names down as to who we should realistically sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, rayk said: You want me to put names down as to who we should realistically sign? Only if you agree with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, paul514 said: Well last season was 144 million on transfers if I remember correctly? If that was the limit then with the 13m a year max losses allowed in the Championship (remember we have to still take two years of that loss limit into account), I am not sure what the Premier League loss allowed per season is now but it used to be 35m. So that raises the budget in theory but our wage bill is presumably significantly higher than the last year of the championship making it fall back down.... hence why I said 120-150m I thought a separate statement was submitted to calculate FFP - Its certainly not losses as per the company accounts, nor is it as simple as you suggest - don't forget we reduced the losses by 'selling our ground last year in the championship As we are a loss making club - you are also making the assumption that the owners are prepared to pump in another £150m from there own pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, hippo said: I thought a separate statement was submitted to calculate FFP - Its certainly not losses as per the company accounts, nor is it as simple as you suggest - don't forget we reduced the losses by 'selling our ground last year in the championship As we are a loss making club - you are also making the assumption that the owners are prepared to pump in another £150m from there own pockets. I think think they are willing, every move they have made since they purchased the club has been pumping in more money than this club is realistically worth under the current football finance model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlico_Villa Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Saw today that Guilbert linked with Nantes. If we lack pace in the team, why are we selling our quickest player? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 My summary of the scenario is that DS didn’t care much for the Suso signings. Suso got the boot. Lange came in but he’s battling against DS, who seems to just want instant results. Its hard because DS ‘made sure’ we didn’t go down. But someone has got to act as a check to dS (as much as I love him):and at the moment it seems as though Lange just need to grow a pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Pimlico_Villa said: Saw today that Guilbert linked with Nantes. If we lack pace in the team, why are we selling our quickest player? That good logic does not mean we can’t sell Guilbert. who knows, he may just be homesick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, paul514 said: I think think they are willing, every move they have made since they purchased the club has been pumping in more money than this club is realistically worth under the current football finance model. Agreed - but they must have a cut off point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pimlico_Villa said: Saw today that Guilbert linked with Nantes. If we lack pace in the team, why are we selling our quickest player? Hope we don't sell him. I think we'd regret it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, hippo said: Agreed - but they must have a cut off point. Depends really, they might just want some fun. They may also buy into the idea of the Premier League producing it own world wide coverage instead of selling it, which results in far higher tv money receipts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, rayk said: My summary of the scenario is that DS didn’t care much for the Suso signings. Suso got the boot. Lange came in but he’s battling against DS, who seems to just want instant results. Its hard because DS ‘made sure’ we didn’t go down. But someone has got to act as a check to dS (as much as I love him):and at the moment it seems as though Lange just need to grow a pair. I think your right about DS not rating the suso signings. My guess is this window will be a bit "safety first" - I think Lange and co will need a while to get their feet under the table - probably be 12 months before we see the fruits of their work. I think the club as a whole has been spooked by hidden gems from overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, paul514 said: Depends really, they might just want some fun. They may also buy into the idea of the Premier League producing it own world wide coverage instead of selling it, which results in far higher tv money receipts I wasn't even aware that was up for discussion ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, hippo said: I wasn't even aware that was up for discussion ? It's a theoretical idea that has been around for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Keener window-cleaner said: I'd like us to sign Mbom just for his name It would go off in here if we did!.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam100 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I've just seen Sky say we have offered £21m for Wilson. I thought we were at £15m plus add-ons or £17m without? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, paul514 said: It's a theoretical idea that has been around for a while. Oh right. Must have missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Liam100 said: I've just seen Sky say we have offered £21m for Wilson. I thought we were at £15m plus add-ons or £17m without? Here is your problem Sir... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 that Bjarnason in the Iceland teams looks a decent player, he's helping to keep the current cream of England at bay.......wonder what he would cost us? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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