bielesibub Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 54 minutes ago, wazzap24 said: Limited study, needs peer reviewing and wider trials, but looks promising. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53467022 I spent a few years on beta interferons, Avonex and Plegridy. As promising as these results are, if the side affects are anything like I experienced, I'd take my risk with covid-19. I've never felt more ill than when I was when taking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 21, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: But when im sick i stay in i don't go out. The big problem here is you don't know you're sick when you've got Covid until it's too late. That's literally the exact reason why masks are necessary. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lapal_fan Posted July 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: The big problem here is you don't know you're sick when you've got Covid until it's too late. That's literally the exact reason why masks are necessary. Yarp, 6 of 7 people in my former office had it (anti body tests confirmed) and they had NO IDEA they had it - AT ALL. Just wear **** mask you dickwads. Do this properly once and it'll be done. Fanny around with some pricks who won't listen, and we'll be doing it for a much longer period. We're nearly there. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Demitri_C Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 38 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: The big problem here is you don't know you're sick when you've got Covid until it's too late. That's literally the exact reason why masks are necessary. I was talking generally as with flu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 21, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I was talking generally as with flu Oh ok. Your next sentence said 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Its personal choice raally but if covid is treatable at a later stage i wont be wearing a mask so I assumed you were talking about Covid. Edited July 21, 2020 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Oh ok. Your next sentence said so I assume you were talking about Covid. What i am saying is ill wear a mask while told to do so wven though i dont want to But i wont wear one if a vaccine or covid 19 is treatable The other part of the post was with regards to when i was ill pre covid 19 (should have specified really) Edited July 21, 2020 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 38 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: But i wont wear one if a vaccine or covid 19 is treatable Out of curiosity, how do you know my mum would be treatable? Or are you only thinking of your own survival here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, chrisp65 said: Out of curiosity, how do you know my mum would be treatable? Or are you only thinking of your own survival here? You could same about most contagious viruses out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 21, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, Demitri_C said: You could same about most contagious viruses out there But again you couldn't really. Covid's mortality rate and the fact you are infectious for weeks before you get symptoms (or indeed you don't show symptoms at all) means it's quite different than a lot of infectious viruses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: You could same about most contagious viruses out there I would indeed say the same about any virus that killed those sorts of numbers of people. By the most conservative figures, covid 19 has killed 45,000 people in 4 months. We can potentially help stop that figure going up again by wearing a mask when in the company of strangers. It doesn’t feel like an awful lot to ask, short term. I know people die because of flu and heart attacks and falling down the stairs. It just feels like for a couple of months, in public, we could all contribute to killing off less mums. But it’s not even just deaths, we’re still finding out about all those long term side effects that will cost individuals and the health service for years to come. I get that its quite a culture difference for people and it can be uncomfortable and inconvenient. I had to stand outside a shop and cool down on Saturday. But it cost me literally 2 minutes out of my day and there is a slight chance i might have stopped someone else’s mum dying of covid. It just feels like a reasonable precaution at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I would indeed say the same about any virus that killed those sorts of numbers of people. By the most conservative figures, covid 19 has killed 45,000 people in 4 months. We can potentially help stop that figure going up again by wearing a mask when in the company of strangers. It doesn’t feel like an awful lot to ask, short term. I know people die because of flu and heart attacks and falling down the stairs. It just feels like for a couple of months, in public, we could all contribute to killing off less mums. But it’s not even just deaths, we’re still finding out about all those long term side effects that will cost individuals and the health service for years to come. I get that its quite a culture difference for people and it can be uncomfortable and inconvenient. I had to stand outside a shop and cool down on Saturday. But it cost me literally 2 minutes out of my day and there is a slight chance i might have stopped someone else’s mum dying of covid. It just feels like a reasonable precaution at the moment. Chris i didnt say i wouldn wear one short term. Im basically saying if it becomes treatable like the flu when we dont see the large scale of people dying i dont really want to wear one of its not really neccesary. I wear it for 30 minutes and i feel so hot (Mediterranean DNA what can i say!) I appreciate your points i have elderly grandmother (who i havent seen since jan as i am scared of passing on to her even though i had the virus back in march) Realistically why is not mandatory to wear masks in hospitals before this virus came out? Edited July 21, 2020 by Demitri_C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Chris i didnt say i wouldn wear one short term. Im basically saying if it becomes treatable like the flu when we dont see the large scale of people dying i dont really want to wear one of its not really neccesary. I wear it for 30 minutes and i feel so hot (Mediterranean DNA what can i say!) I appreciate your points i have elderly grandmother (who i havent seen since jan as i am scared of passing on to her even though i had the virus back in march) Realistically why is not mandatory to wear masks in hospitals before this virus came out? If you knew some of the places I get to root around in, you’d wonder why its not mandatory that I always wear a mask! I have a site visit tomorrow, it’s not going to be pleasant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: If you knew some of the places I get to root around in, you’d wonder why its not mandatory that I always wear a mask! I have a site visit tomorrow, it’s not going to be pleasant. Really. Do tell Best luck with it bud i can only imagine it wont be much fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 Waiter: How would you like your water, Sir? Sir: Muddy. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article "Abstract: There were 3 influenza pandemics in the 20th century, and there has been 1 so far in the 21st century. Local, national, and international health authorities regularly update their plans for mitigating the next influenza pandemic in light of the latest available evidence on the effectiveness of various control measures in reducing transmission. Here, we review the evidence base on the effectiveness of nonpharmaceutical personal protective measures and environmental hygiene measures in nonhealthcare settings and discuss their potential inclusion in pandemic plans. Although mechanistic studies support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza. We similarly found limited evidence on the effectiveness of improved hygiene and environmental cleaning. We identified several major knowledge gaps requiring further research, most fundamentally an improved characterization of the modes of person-to-person transmission." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Really. Do tell Best luck with it bud i can only imagine it wont be much fun Well, imagine how dirty somewhere must be, if they have to spend £85,000 to have it cleaned enough to be allowed to demolish it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Well, imagine how dirty somewhere must be, if they have to spend £85,000 to have it cleaned enough to be allowed to demolish it! SHA getting a new stadium? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, sne said: SHA getting a new stadium? Luckily, horse shit and cobwebs are very low risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Places that are not included: Quote 5. Public libraries and public reading rooms. 6. Premises providing professional, legal or financial services. 7. Premises (other than registered pharmacies) providing wholly or mainly medical or dental services, audiology services, chiropody, chiropractic, osteopathic, optometry or other medical services including services relating to mental health. 8. Veterinary services. 9. Cinemas. 10. Theatres. 11. Museums, galleries (other than for the sale or hire of artwork), aquariums, indoor zoos or visitor farms, or other indoor tourist, heritage or cultural sites. 12. Nightclubs. 13. Dance halls. 14. Bingo halls. 15. Concert halls, exhibition halls or other public hall. 16. Conference and exhibition centres. 17. Indoor fitness studios, gyms, dance studios, leisure centres, indoor swimming pools, water parks, bowling alleys, funfairs, theme parks, amusement arcades, indoor soft play areas, skating rinks or other premises for indoor sports, leisure, adventure or recreation activities. 18. Indoor sports arenas or stadia. 19. Casinos. 20. Hotels and hostels. 21. Spas. 22. Nail, beauty, hair salons and barbers. 23. Tattoo and piercing parlours. 24. Massage parlours. 25. Storage and distribution centres. 26. Funeral directors. 27. Photography studios. 28. Auction houses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Random coronavirus question that google doesn't clear up for me... MOT's were given an extra 6 months extension. My MOT was due in May, so i have until November to get it done. If i get it done now in July, is my MOT valid until July 2021, or from original date May 2020 to May 2021, or from extension date November 2020 to November 2021? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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