Davkaus Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 The bloke is just a complete **** moron. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, mjmooney said: This feels dangerously like it must have been near the end of WWII, when it was obvious that there was going to be an allied victory, it was just a matter of time, and a few more battles. People got complacent, thinking they'd made it. Or they got overly cautious, not wanting to get this far and then die. But of course, thousands did die, some of them in the final hours of the final day. And they will here. We saw our daughter (and granddaughter) today for the first time since she's recovered from covid, and it felt good. But I'll be much happier once we've had our jabs. I’m having more difficulty now, finding volunteers to go to site, than at any point in the last 10 months. I’ve been out to site once in the last two weeks, the least travel I’ve done since the summer. Nobody wants to be the guy that ‘got it’ six weeks before their vaccination. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Just now, chrisp65 said: I’m having more difficulty now, finding volunteers to go to site, than at any point in the last 10 months. I’ve been out to site once in the last two weeks, the least travel I’ve done since the summer. Nobody wants to be the guy that ‘got it’ six weeks before their vaccination. If you do get it you can’t have a vaccine for 4 weeks (as my Nan found out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 37 minutes ago, sidcow said: You do wonder if that dramatic fall is 100% due to the continuing lockdown or if some of the vaccines are starting to have an affect. We're about a month and a half after the really early ones and surely 3 weeks after a good million or two. We need to see the demographics of those still getting infected. Hopefully the category 1-4 people are rapidly declining in the stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I find it desperately sad that the people dying now are the ones who missed the vaccine by weeks. As of now, almost all of the people who would be at risk of death have been vaccinated. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, darrenm said: I find it desperately sad that the people dying now are the ones who missed the vaccine by weeks. As of now, almost all of the people who would be at risk of death have been vaccinated. Like isnt the right reaction, I agree entirely with this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 3, 2021 50 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Interestingly enough those graphs are very similar to Sweden’s, despite no lockdown and very limited vaccines so far. There must also be an element of natural herd immunity that builds up where enough people have had it recently that the virus starts struggling to find fresh victims. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/ I've been thinking for a while, there must get to a stage where it's infected most of the, shall we say, low hanging fruit, and then finds it more difficult to jump to the more careful people. There are X number of people who dick around, take little precautions and generally ignore it, then there are people who have no choice but to put themselves in harms way due to their job or other personal reasons. Then there are the other people who are generally making themselves difficult targets. At some point it's rampage has to slow as it just can't really encounter the latter group unless they let their guard down. If the vaccines stop asymptomatic transmission then surely the full blown virus leaves enough antibodies to prevent it as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, mjmooney said: This feels dangerously like it must have been near the end of WWII, when it was obvious that there was going to be an allied victory I don't know about WW2 but at the end of WW1 there were commanders ordering people into lunatic attacks in the hour before the cessation of hostilities in the full knowledge that the ceasefire was imminent. How could someone live with themselves doing that? Edited February 3, 2021 by sidcow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Genie said: If you do get it you can’t have a vaccine for 4 weeks (as my Nan found out). Yep, this is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Yikes, my ex had her first jab today, had an anaphylactic reaction and is being kept in overnight. She has a history of anaphylactic reactions most notably with peanuts the risk isn't going to be there for people without that, but it's a bloody good job she had the vaccine at a hospital. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Yikes, my ex had her first jab today, had an anaphylactic reaction and is being kept in overnight. She has a history of anaphylactic reactions most notably with peanuts the risk isn't going to be there for people without that, but it's a bloody good job she had the vaccine at a hospital. That's probably why she did. They know people with a history of anaphylactic shock are a risk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Not a complete surprise, but very interesting nevertheless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 22 hours ago, blandy said: The evidence hasn't changed. For the Oxford/AZ vaccine the original evidence has been backed up by further evidence, but it says the same thing. It's good and reassuring, but it's not different. For the Pfizer vaccine, there's not yet any evidence on the 12 week (rather than recommended 3 week) gap between vaccines having consequences (either good or bad). That's as I understand things, anyway. clicky One dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine gives people about 90% protection from Covid by 21 days, according to an analysis of Israel’s mass vaccination programme. The data analysis, carried out by researchers from the University of East Anglia with UK government funding, runs counter to an earlier study from Israel which suggested that one dose may not give adequate protection. Still to be peer reviewed (paper is in pre-print) but UK researchers seem to be more right than wrong over these decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AVFC_Hitz Posted February 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 The Bulgarians are doing teachers as a priority. Just been jabbed with the Moderna vaccine. Happy Days. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 4, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, Awol said: clicky People in the UK have now had the Pfizer jab for nearly 8 weeks now. Surely they are testing some of these peoples, checking what antibodies they are showing after 8 weeks. Surely we should have some decent enough information from our own project now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 The lady I’m seeing has been offered her second dose a week after the first. Is that weird? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Genie Posted February 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, avfcDJ said: The lady I’m seeing has been offered her second dose a week after the first. Is that weird? They say there’s someone out there for everyone so not that weird imo. 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Genie said: They say there’s someone out there for everyone so not that weird imo. Classic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dodgyknees Posted February 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 Had a Covid test come back negative. Happy days. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 4, 2021 Moderator Share Posted February 4, 2021 5 hours ago, Awol said: clicky That doesn't tell us anything about 12 weeks. We already knew the 3 weeks was good. That was confirmed by the original clinical trials. The Israeli field evidence tells us exactly the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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