Follyfoot Posted June 10, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Keyblade said: He had the skin condition vitiligo, it wasn't blee-heeach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wainy316 said: This has got me thinking, is there actually any statues of any nice people? Edit: Having caught up with the thread I see he's been done by @choffer. Edited June 10, 2020 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 37 minutes ago, Brumerican said: Mark Ruffalo's not looking good there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted June 10, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 10, 2020 His jacket clearly says "Mascot" in inverted commas, which implies that maybe he wasn't actually the mascot. If I were a Tory I'd now have a clear conscience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Just now, snowychap said: Mark Ruffalo's not looking good there. Serves him right for "greening up" all those years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 10, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Keyblade said: He had the skin condition vitiligo, it wasn't blee-heeach You're both right. He had vitiligo and eventually bleached his skin white as it was easier than applying dark makeup to cover up the light patches. (AFAIK) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said: Cilla Black in Liverpool She blacked up at every opportunity* *this may not be true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: You're both right. He had vitiligo and eventually bleached his skin white as it was easier than applying dark makeup to cover up the light patches. (AFAIK) From what I remember it progressed to the point where he had to cover it up with light makeup instead of dark and then to the point where he was almost fully "white", but still slightly patchy and after his death they found prescription bleaching cream for vitiligo patients who want to get rid of the remaining patches. Must have been rough being accused of being anti-black for your entire adult life because of a skin disease you couldn't control. I'm glad I'm not famous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Brumerican said: Serves him right for "greening up" all those years. "I will love it if you make me angry. Love it" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: His jacket clearly says "Mascot" in inverted commas, which implies that maybe he wasn't actually the mascot. Looks like his hat says - Aston "Villa" Thought it was a bit weird at first. After a minute's thought it I'm on board and I think we should bring back that way of writing it. Edited June 10, 2020 by Sam-AVFC to make it clearer I don't support bringing back a guy in blackface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, Keyblade said: From what I remember it progressed to the point where he had to cover it up with light makeup instead of dark and then to the point where he was almost fully "white", but still slightly patchy and after his death they found prescription bleaching cream for vitiligo patients who want to get rid of the remaining patches. Must have been rough being accused of being anti-black for your entire adult life because of a skin disease you couldn't control. I'm glad I'm not famous. That was the least he deserved after the revelations that have come out after his death... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 10, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Keyblade said: From what I remember it progressed to the point where he had to cover it up with light makeup instead of dark and then to the point where he was almost fully "white", but still slightly patchy and after his death they found prescription bleaching cream for vitiligo patients who want to get rid of the remaining patches. Must have been rough being accused of being anti-black for your entire adult life because of a skin disease you couldn't control. I'm glad I'm not famous. Yeah that's what i understand too. He used to cover it up with dark makeup, then when it got bad he switched to covering up the dark parts with light makeup. And then eventually bleached it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Wainy316 said: This has got me thinking, is there actually any statues of any nice people? I think if you use todays standards then the vast majority of statues would have to be removed. I'm uncomfortable about the purge of monuments like this. It makes up the history of the country, warts and all. While some probably deserve to be removed where will it end? Peel? Nelson? Wellington? Drake? Queen Victoria? Churchill? All have said or done things that wouldn't be acceptable today. I guess you could apply the same logic to Gandhi as well. He said horrible things about black people. Engels as well, family fortune build on cotton mills on produce picked by slaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, Sam-AVFC said: Looks like his hat says - Aston "Villa" Thought it was a bit weird at first. After a minute's thought it I'm on board and I think we should bring back that way of writing it. I think Aston Villa “Football” Club, definitely works! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 10, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: Cilla Black in Liverpool Friend of the B**tles And she Blackfaced her name 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted June 10, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Xela said: I think if you use todays standards then the vast majority of statues would have to be removed. I'm uncomfortable about the purge of monuments like this. It makes up the history of the country, warts and all. While some probably deserve to be removed where will it end? Peel? Nelson? Wellington? Drake? Queen Victoria? Churchill? All have said or done things that wouldn't be acceptable today. I guess you could apply the same logic to Gandhi as well. He said horrible things about black people. Engels as well, family fortune build on cotton mills on produce picked by slaves. Would you have to knock down the pyramids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Would you have to knock down the pyramids Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted June 10, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Would you have to knock down the pyramids It's a pharaoh'd conundrum, isn't it? No. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 10, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 10, 2020 If we're tearing down statues for historical crimes this one has to be the top of the list surely? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted June 10, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, bickster said: If we're tearing down statues for historical crimes this one has to be the top of the list surely? What have you got against the Dave Clark 5? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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