lexicon Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Deano & Dalian's Umbrella said: Normally, return to play from PCL surgery is not dissimilar to the time for ACL surgery, so around 6 months plus. So that would be unusual. For PCL injuries manages conservatively (without surgery), return to play is more like 4 months but I just googled and that player did have surgery and there are articles saying he had a "cruciate" injury but I can't find anything more than that or details of the surgery. Given that PCL injuries often don't require surgery, I'm wondering whether the surgery he had was to deal with a lesser, associated injury like a meniscal tear and the PCL tear was left alone. Otherwise, and I hope you don't mind me saying this as I'm part Greek myself, the crazy Greeks just let him go back too quickly and hoped for the best. Thanks for the info All the articles about it are in Greek and despite living here my Greek is a bit limited tbf. One I went through did mention the meniscus, though. As for the last part, a lot of it is that Araujo is a typical Argentinian and just as crazy He was on crutches for the league and cup wins at the end of the last season, so was desperate to get back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Deano & Dalian's Umbrella said: Just carrying on from the question about the player in Greeec: I just found a (translated) article which says: "He underwent stitches to the medial meniscus in his left knee, while it was decided to undergo an invasive procedure for the posterior cruciate ligament at the same time, with estimates – at the time – talking about his absence from the courts for 4-5 months. On the one hand, this suggests he did have PCL surgery but on the other hand, it makes it sound like the meniscal surgery was the main procedure and then whatever was done to the PCL was a secondary procedure, which doesn't make sense as a PCL reconstruction would be the much bigger deal. Interesting. I heard that he was sent to some sort of knee expert surgeon in Spain to have the procedure and rehab done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano & Dalian's Umbrella Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, lexicon said: Thanks for the info You're welcome. Edited August 16, 2023 by Deano & Dalian's Umbrella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Talldarkandransome said: I don't want to disclose the details of his injury... He has done his ACL... Was he referring to his previous injury when they were at Bournemouth together maybe? Edited August 16, 2023 by villan95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 16, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2023 18 hours ago, MrBlack said: He started learning to play the piano this year, with an ambition to be able to play mozart and other classical music. That'll definitely keep him busy and give him a sense of accomplishment when he can do so. Him and Andre Green could play Dualing Banjos together. It would be a beautiful moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 16, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, lexicon said: @Deano & Dalian's Umbrella There was a case here of a player here in Greece, Sergio Araujo, who ruptured (I believe) his PCL but managed to come back after only 111 days. How unusual is it to recover that quickly, if you don't mind me asking. 111 days? Maybe we should take him to the Greek. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 19 hours ago, Deano & Dalian's Umbrella said: This is complete guesswork but we now have Wilson happy to say that Mings has an ACL injury but not happy to disclose (other?) details which means that Wilson is either worse than me at keeping secrets or there are additional details he isn't saying. Combined with the official site saying it will require "lengthy rehabilitation" whereas for Buendia, it said 6-8 months which is the standard thing the physio and doctor would tell the manager for an ACL, this makes me suspect that Mings has injured additional structures which need reconstructing. The most likely candidate would be a collection of structures known as "the posterolateral corner". If someone has this and the ACL reconstructed together, return to play could be more like 1 year. I did that on my knee along with having meniscus repaired, after about 14-18 months I felt fine to play again properly and that lasted a few years but my knee gives me constant issues now. Admittedly I never had the kind of rehab that Mings will have and let's just say I'm not quite the physical specimen he is either, so potentially a year out for him The worst bit was it delays the start of any meaningful rehab for a month or 2, but after that the recovery is the same as just acl. So whatever the normal recovery time is + a couple of months probably 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheMightyVillans Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said: Might have to get the philippe one out next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodo Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Fruit of the loom are making a packet out of us last couple weeks 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dodgyknees Posted August 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) Still feel very sad about this happening to Ty, if there is one player who deserves to be with us at our highest (for a number of years, not all time), then it’s him. I miss his beaming smile already. I know he’s not dead and this reads like he is Edited August 21, 2023 by Dodgyknees 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 51 minutes ago, Dodgyknees said: Still feel very sad about this happening to Ty, if there is one player who deserves to be with us at our highest (for a number of years, not all time), then it’s him. I miss his beaming smile already. I know he’s not dead and this reads like he is It was a bit weird not seeing him in the back four at the weekend. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 16/08/2023 at 14:23, sidcow said: Him and Andre Green could play Dualing Banjos together. It would be a beautiful moment. And Dion on the Dube in the corner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AvfcRigo82 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 On 20/08/2023 at 17:07, TheMightyVillans said: Might have to get the philippe one out next week. I doubt we will have to worry about that now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Well at least he’ll have company during his injury as his best mate Anthony Watson is also out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 8 hours ago, Jas10 said: Our boss is better than yours? Qué? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted August 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: Our boss is better than yours? Qué? It’s directed to the world at large, rather than Aston Villa, although it’s understandable why it might read otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: It’s directed to the world at large, rather than Aston Villa, although it’s understandable why it might read otherwise. Quote tweeting Villa in it threw me a little! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyeddie Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Yesterday I didn't like that kit, today I do. Damn you Ty you handsome devil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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