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15 minutes ago, lexicon said:

Jesus Christ 😂

He's 21, 4 goals and 5 assists this season. Absolutely embarrassing to be writing him off like this. 

Ramsey is another one who is worth 100 mill and " One of our own " when he has a great game... then absolute shite when he has a slightly off game ffs.

I personally thought he was ok.

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5 minutes ago, I Make Pies said:

I don't understand the critism of JJ. He is one of our better players in most of the matches I watch and the statistics back that up.

Here are all the relevant attacking stats on FbRef:

Goals: 3rd on team

Assists: 2nd

Goals + Assists: 2nd

Progressive Carries: 1st

Progressive Passes: 6th

Progressive Passes Received: 5th

He is also our fifth highest rated player on WhoScored.

And still so inexperienced, he will continue developing and be even better.

So good at carrying the ball...makes it look effortless at times.

Could also break many records with Villa if he wants!

Still only 21 years old.

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29 minutes ago, I Make Pies said:

I don't understand the critism of JJ. He is one of our better players in most of the matches I watch and the statistics back that up.

Here are all the relevant attacking stats on FbRef:

Goals: 3rd on team

Assists: 2nd

Goals + Assists: 2nd

Progressive Carries: 1st

Progressive Passes: 6th

Progressive Passes Received: 5th

He is also our fifth highest rated player on WhoScored.

I think the issue is that when his performance drops, it drops quite dramatically and we end up carrying a player. However, that isn't his fault, he is young and learning. What we need is a larger squad so that JJ can be taken out when necessary.

Next season we will have that squad 

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42 minutes ago, I Make Pies said:

I don't understand the critism of JJ. He is one of our better players in most of the matches I watch and the statistics back that up.

Here are all the relevant attacking stats on FbRef:

Goals: 3rd on team

Assists: 2nd

Goals + Assists: 2nd

Progressive Carries: 1st

Progressive Passes: 6th

Progressive Passes Received: 5th

He is also our fifth highest rated player on WhoScored.

His main issue is that he struggles to play in tight spaces.

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I think he needs to be the understudy to a class player in his position next season - I really rate him and definitely am not writing him off, but I think he needs to see what 8/10 performances minimum in his position looks like so he can understand the level required.

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8 hours ago, Zhan_Zhuang said:

And still so inexperienced, he will continue developing and be even better.

So good at carrying the ball...makes it look effortless at times.

Could also break many records with Villa if he wants!

Still only 21 years old.

I wouldn't call 88 PL appearance "so inexperienced", but I get the wider point that he has time to improve.

Still think he will be a squad filler from next season. Which wouldn't be a bad thing at all for several reasons.

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23 hours ago, Demitri_C said:

Not his best game but come on he us a great player with massive potential 

I like JJ but he isnt a "great player with massive potential."

A decent player with good potential would be more accurate imo.

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Just to expand a bit on that stat, I guess I feel that while he has clocked up a significant number of top flight games for his age, he is still very young. 

The Grealish thing - to be clear, I don’t think Ramsey will be as good - but just as a point of comparison, approaching the age of 22, Grealish at that age had that pre season kidney injury. Up to that point, he’d had a reasonable year in the championship and a cracking performance at Wembley against Liverpool. While the talent was there I don’t think many were looking at him and thinking “£100m player there…”.

Point being, Grealish didn’t really click until turning 23/24 and at a lower level (which he was able to replicate in the top flight). 

If Jacob has even a halfway similar increase in performance, he’ll be a fantastic player for us.

 

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23 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said:

I like JJ but he isnt a "great player with massive potential."

A decent player with good potential would be more accurate imo.

Just to put into context mason mount who is highly rated stats this year

24 pl matches 3 goals 2 assists

JJ

32 matches 4 goals 5 assists

JJ is still young and hw was getting touted with a england call up earlier in the season. I stick by my statement 

 

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Just now, Demitri_C said:

Just to put into context mason mount who is highly rated stats this year

24 pl matches 3 goals 2 assists

JJ

32 matches 4 goals 5 assists

JJ is still young and hw was getting touted with a england call up earlier in the season. I stick by my statement 

 

Mason Mount?

He isn't a great player either.

Bellingham is a great player with massive potential.

Or Kamara of we are looking closer to home.

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Just now, GlobalVillan said:

Mason Mount?

He isn't a great player either.

Bellingham is a great player with massive potential.

Or Kamara of we are looking closer to home.

Mount is a veey good player i would love him here he is just at a club in a mess. If he wasnt very good liverpool would not be trying to sign him so hard in the Summer 

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46 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

Mount is a veey good player i would love him here he is just at a club in a mess. If he wasnt very good liverpool would not be trying to sign him so hard in the Summer 

He isn't a great player is what I said. A good player I'll grant. And I've seen some very good performances from him and many shockers.

And since you mentioned Liverpool,  there's no way they would be "trying so hard to sign" Ramsey in the summer.

And that's my point. JJ is a good player but a long way from "great" and I'd say doubtful to be a regular starter next season imo.

Especially with no European football.

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