slowandlow Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, DCJonah said: We've stayed up, put wolves back in their place and will finish above the darling of football Biesla. Success for me no matter what happens now. Think they will both get above us. Struggle to see us getting to 50 pts tbh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, M_Afro said: I think the reason I get annoyed is because Smith doesn’t seem to try and change anything to get us working again. We have been awful for weeks but he mostly picks the same players in the same system! When he does change it, I rarely see the point of his changes. It makes no sense. Only once since C-19 have I been happy with his starting midfield 3 and that was last week against Wolves. It actually worked really well so why effing change it tonight? It’s bonkers. McGinn.......no! Elmo.......no! Ramsey........not yet he is not ready! Play Trez if you want to play Barkley but if you are going for a solid midfield 3 then Trez....no! Finally Dean..........no!!!!!!!! Sort it out ffs How? No mcginn, no elmo, no Ramsey... Replace them with who? Bearing in mind sanson and cash weren't fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted March 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 12, 2021 Someone in the local Villa group chat, wants Dean sacked and Jack sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Xela said: We do look a bit tired and leggy now but we're going to finish the season on 50-52 points IMO, a huge improvement on last year. Few more players in the summer and we'll start next season in a very strong place We do need more attacking options as we are void of ideas when Jack is out. I'm sure Dean knows that. I hope jack stays and think he will. But we should be able to produce a performance of sorts without him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, villa4europe said: How? No mcginn, no elmo, no Ramsey... Replace them with who? Bearing in mind sanson and cash weren't fit How do you know they weren’t fit. In the squad so fit surely? If not then fair enough but why is he picking unfit players to sit on the bench? Sanson also looked fit when he came on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, VillanousOne said: by that logic, wouldn't it have been better to use some of our promising youth stars who have been training with the 1st team, rather than a unfit player??? Why not put Bidace and big Chuk on the bench? Chuk and Kesler played today Said in the match thread I think the PL is a bit stupid for that, they seemingly don't organise reserve / youth games around the first team games, if our reserves played Sunday then maybe we see some of them on the bench tonight, as it is them playing 90 mins this afternoon is better than an unused sub tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, hippo said: I hope jack stays and think he will. But we should be able to produce a performance of sorts without him Absolutely, I agree, the priority this summer should be attacking options. Another striker and at least one more wide player, ideally two. Then Jack can play as a 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, M_Afro said: How do you know they weren’t fit. In the squad so fit surely? If not then fair enough but why is he picking unfit players to sit on the bench? Sanson also looked fit when he came on. There's a difference between fit enough to start and fit enough to make the bench, he's choosing elmo over cash for any other reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: Someone in the local Villa group chat, wants Dean sacked and Jack sold Will probably say that Lowe is leaving Germany in the summer or that allegri is available, at least Poch has a job so we can put that to bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Chuk and Kesler played today Said in the match thread I think the PL is a bit stupid for that, they seemingly don't organise reserve / youth games around the first team games, if our reserves played Sunday then maybe we see some of them on the bench tonight, as it is them playing 90 mins this afternoon is better than an unused sub tonight Ok then Bidace then? You've also claimed Sanson wasn't fit, when he clearly was and played a large chunk of the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Xela said: Absolutely, I agree, the priority this summer should be attacking options. Another striker and at least one more wide player, ideally two. Then Jack can play as a 10. Tammy/Mane & St Maxim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I don’t really think any of this is on Smith tbh. We haven’t been tactically outdone by any stretch. We have players being wasteful and our whole midfield just not pulling their weight. The players last season weren’t good enough and other than a couple of improvements, still largely aren’t good enough. We’ve taken a huge step in the right direction but there’s still a way to go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, VillanousOne said: Ok then Bidace then? You've also claimed Sanson wasn't fit, when he clearly was and played a large chunk of the match. Bidace was dropped for el ghazi wasn't he? Sanson is hard to tell, if the coaching staff think he's got 30 to 45 mins in him max then you don't start him, it's a recurring theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, M_Afro said: I think the reason I get annoyed is because Smith doesn’t seem to try and change anything to get us working again. We have been awful for weeks but he mostly picks the same players in the same system! When he does change it, I rarely see the point of his changes. It makes no sense. Only once since C-19 have I been happy with his starting midfield 3 and that was last week against Wolves. It actually worked really well so why effing change it tonight? It’s bonkers. McGinn.......no! Elmo.......no! Ramsey........not yet he is not ready! Play Trez if you want to play Barkley but if you are going for a solid midfield 3 then Trez....no! Finally Dean..........no!!!!!!!! Sort it out ffs Same issue remains - who else is there??? We need to build the squad. The squad is better this year than last year. It should therefore be better next year. It’s all a work in progress. I’m happy provided we continue to move in the right direction, which we quite obviously are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, Mjvilla said: FTFY You wanna think of raising your expectations mate, after the way we started with our 100 million pound player, I certainly expected more than to give up points to Sheffield, Brighton and Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, Spoony said: I don’t really think any of this is on Smith tbh. We haven’t been tactically outdone by any stretch. We have players being wasteful and our whole midfield just not pulling their weight. The players last season weren’t good enough and other than a couple of improvements, still largely aren’t good enough. We’ve taken a huge step in the right direction but there’s still a way to go. I slightly disagree on the tactically outdone We've lost to managers who make the game slow, long and shit on purpose, its a tactic I still think we're not good enough to rise above it but that's really hard, that's why the PL can be so inconsistent, it's lazy football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Mathmatically yeah but I don't think the confidence is there to believe that we're still chasing it, the players don't have the urgency The "blame" for that will lie with your predetermined opinion of Smith, those that don't rate him will accuse him of not being able to fire the players up, those that are happy won't care too much The one thing for me is that again in a game that we looked so bad in the final third ultimately we've come away having missed great chances Sheffield United got to 54 points last season so still think we should be aiming for that given they were newly promoted and it's easy to forget we actually aren't. Going on beach mode once we hit 40 point can be forgiven once....but you can easily get into that sort of pattern year in year out as West Brom always seemed to do under Pulis and long term the owners won't be impressed by that. Just feels like there was a little bit more in the season for us considering the position we were in even mid Feb. Yet another one in the last 20 years where we've been nicely in touch in top half of league and then really fallen off in form last 3 months. Given where we are in terms of our rebuild it can be acceptable....but lessons need to be learned otherwise we'll be doing the same old things in two years time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, DCJonah said: European football was a pipe dream with the money and years of Premier league football those top 6/7 teams have on us. West Ham say hi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I genuinely don't get all the concern and anger. We aren't going down. For the first time in over a decade we can just relax without our season being on the line going into the end of the season. That's huge IMO. We're a midtable team and our owners are going to invest again in the summer. This is all part of our journey back to the big time. Its going to take more than 2 seasons. Quoting for posterity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, foreveryoung said: West Ham say hi! West ham have (had) 3 £40m players in their team They're a few years above us, that's is what it is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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