VillaFaninLondon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: Club record winning streak to win promotion a year before most expected. A cup final 3 points off survival. Yeah, I can see why he's done nothing to earn 1 full season at his job. Its just utter nonsense Let's rephrase these things: Club record winning streak in the Championship after winning just 2 games in 13 prior to that and getting his best player back Beating Wolves, Liverpool and Brighton under 18s teams along the way and fluking past Leicester thanks to a one off performance from his reserve goalkeeper 3 points off survival with a much tougher run in than all the teams around us 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Blasterpocket68 said: Brighton did a very good impression of a team battling to avoid the drop the weekend! Lots of fans are labelled fickle , and most fans would not have awarded a manager so much time. The project has failed we wont finish 17th unfortunately were simply not good enough the table dosnt lie and the stats are bleak. The task now is to rebuild (YES AGAIN) the whole structure inside the club from top to bottom. Sorry, I forgot the season is already over and we haven’t got 8 games left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Apparently the suggestion back in February was a £20m wage cap for the championship,when we were first down there the last time Agbonlahor and Richards between them were probably on three quarters of that, add in the likes of Henri, McCormack, and Hogan and most of that £20m limit would have gone on them alone. Would just mean having to give playes a bigger percentage of the transfer money, so ultimately all that it would do is just drive the transfer fees up, unless they put a cap on those as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said: Let's rephrase these things: Club record winning streak in the Championship after winning just 2 games in 13 prior to that and getting his best player back Beating Wolves, Liverpool and Brighton under 18s teams along the way and fluking past Leicester thanks to a one off performance from his reserve goalkeeper 3 points off survival with a much tougher run in than all the teams around us 1 point off survival, who knows what GD will be at end of season, it’s close at the moment. Plus if you argue it’s still two. A win is 3 points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, nick76 said: 1 point off survival, who knows what GD will be at end of season, it’s close at the moment. Plus if you argue it’s still two. A win is 3 points! I admire your optimism - let’s hope weds gives us reason to be cheerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 41 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Yeah, high profile names were desperate to join a team sitting 13th in the championship. Again, your expectations seem to be the problem. Wolves appointed Nuno after finishing 15th, yes 15th, in the Championship the previous season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said: Let's rephrase these things: Club record winning streak in the Championship after winning just 2 games in 13 prior to that and getting his best player back Beating Wolves, Liverpool and Brighton under 18s teams along the way and fluking past Leicester thanks to a one off performance from his reserve goalkeeper 3 points off survival with a much tougher run in than all the teams around us And this is where it gets silly. If you can't give any credit to the success then you've clearly got an agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Eastie said: I admire your optimism - let’s hope weed gives us reason to be cheerful Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, VillaFaninLondon said: Wolves appointed Nuno after finishing 15th, yes 15th, in the Championship the previous season. We need to stop comparing ourselves to wolves. Mendes has played a significant role in developing that club. They are an exception not the norm. They signed Neves in the championship. Do you really think all championship clubs are capable of doing what they did? Edited June 22, 2020 by DCJonah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, nick76 said: 1 point off survival, who knows what GD will be at end of season, it’s close at the moment. Plus if you argue it’s still two. A win is 3 points! I admire your optimism that we'll even win one game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 To survive we have to start beating the top half teams something we haven't been able to do all season, in fact we've only taken two points from the current top ten. If we are to stay up now it's going to take a miraculous turn around in form, and there's nothing whatsoever to suggest that that's going to happen unfortunately. So despite only being one point and goal difference from safety can see why people have such a gloomy outlooks on our prosepcts of staying up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Leeds appointed Bielsa after finishing 13th in the championship. If we go down we can still get someone decent, doesn't have to be an household name that everyone knows, I bet hardly any Wolves' fans had heard of Nuno, someone who's had relative success in europe and wants a way into the premier league would take a job at an ambitious championship club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: We need to stop comparing ourselves to wolves. Mendes has played a significant role in developing that club. They are an exception not the norm. They signed Neves in the championship. Do you really think all championship clubs are capable of doing what they did? I think WE are capable of it. Wolves were able to sign players of that calibre precisely because they appointed Nuno. Neves would not have gone there without the manager being there. And I constantly compare us with Wolves, because for years I've heard from fellow Villa fans that we can't accomplish anything playing in the Midlands. Wolves have completely turned that argument on its head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Eastie said: I admire your optimism - let’s hope weds gives us reason to be cheerful 8 games left for him to fish up excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted June 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, DCJonah said: We need to stop comparing ourselves to wolves. Mendes has played a significant role in developing that club. They are an exception not the norm. They signed Neves in the championship. Do you really think all championship clubs are capable of doing what they did? Yes the George Mendes connection is the reason why they are were they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Good to see Matt law of the daily telegraph calling purslow and Suso also into question over their handling of things too - long overdue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasterpocket68 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, nick76 said: Sorry, I forgot the season is already over and we haven’t got 8 games left Nick you have totally ignored my point and argument ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasterpocket68 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said: Let's rephrase these things: Club record winning streak in the Championship after winning just 2 games in 13 prior to that and getting his best player back Beating Wolves, Liverpool and Brighton under 18s teams along the way and fluking past Leicester thanks to a one off performance from his reserve goalkeeper 3 points off survival with a much tougher run in than all the teams around us Reality - or some interpret as being fickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 46 minutes ago, sne said: No way will they implement a hard wage cap from one season to another. It just would not work unless the cap is so high it would be pointless anyway. If there is one it will be a gradual one spread over at least 3 seasons. And it wont be already for next season. I don't see it happening at all unless they make the PL a closed league. The PL will not allow something that forces them to have a 90% relegation wage drop in all contracts. No players would sign those and the quality and attractiveness of the PL would drop. Easiest thing would be that any players you sign after you are relegated are subject to wage cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 29 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said: I think WE are capable of it. Wolves were able to sign players of that calibre precisely because they appointed Nuno. Neves would not have gone there without the manager being there. And I constantly compare us with Wolves, because for years I've heard from fellow Villa fans that we can't accomplish anything playing in the Midlands. Wolves have completely turned that argument on its head. But then its not the clubs fault if they can't match YOUR expectations. You think we are capable of it, not sure on what basis. Wolves have done an incredible job. I said it earlier, us not being happy because we aren't matching Wolves, would be like mid table teams unhappy they didn't challenge for the title when Leicester won it. These teams are exceptions, not the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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