HKP90 Posted May 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, Jas10 said: I can smell what's cooking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 4 hours ago, MentalM said: This has been going on after Covid outbreak. Could it be related? A few players looked way worse (Barkley in particular). Also adding up the injury to the leagues best player. I agree on Smith needing to improve on many things, but if you see the improvement from last season to this season you should be thrilled. Bielsa has one huge advantage, continuity in the squad. We have had a MAJOR rebuild in our entire team. And Bielsa have clear weaknesses with stubborness and naivity himself (had that all through his career). Had to mention this since you seem to worship him as much as you worshipped Maupay... We have the youngest lineup in PL, and we are on the track of one survival season, one season to settle, and contest for Europe next season. Why are we so inpatient? Building a team takes time. If Traore shows the improvement i.e Targett and Konsa has shown, he would be a world beater next season It was definitely a contributing factor, I don’t think many clubs, if not any, were hit as hard with Covid as us. I’ve said it before & will say it again: We were flying but had our wings clipped. Barkley losing form and losing Jack to injury were huge factors. We struggle when Cash & Mings are out too. The solution is to strengthen the team (thereby the squad) not sack the manager and undo all the effort and progress. We don’t have many options and are really being forced to play the likes of Ramsey who is neither ready or good enough to play for a top half team. And yes, I totally agree, we need patience. I think some of us have been spoiled by our success and just want instant gratification. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, HKP90 said: I can smell what's cooking. I say your a jabroni 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, DCJonah said: In our premier league history, we've finished in the top 6, 9 times. We are historically a pretty midtable Premier league team with a few good seasons and a few terrible ones. Yet we're on here talking about our best finish in a decade like we've dropped from great heights and that the manager is on thin ice because of it. I feel like I'm following a different club at times. Reality doesn't match the garbage posted in this thread. We are quite attractive aren’t we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted May 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: I say your a jabroni You are taking me back to my teenage years in the '90s And that's the bottom line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, HKP90 said: You are taking me back to my teenage years in the '90s And that's the bottom line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Zatman said: Sam interview was just him moaning about the referee and VAR, he gave no insight into the game and pretty much ignored the question about Alisson goal by blaming the ref Yes his interview was dreadful. He might have had a point about the first goal but they had several opportunities to clear the ball or to do something about stopping the goal after the free kick from the half way line. He failed, he took them down, he got well paid for doing it as well. Smith on the over hand is very open and honest with his post match interviews. Speaks like a fan and if we are crap he will say it. Edited May 17, 2021 by PaulC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 He's definitely not above criticism and there's definitely parts that I think are justified. BUT I'd much rather be in our position with him and our squad than say Everton who have spend a lot of money on average/subpar players and brought in a "world class" manager whom hasn't really significantly improved them because they need better players. (Yes, I'm still stuck on spending up to almost 40 million on Iwobi) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jas10 said: We are quite attractive aren’t we? Yep. And I'll think we see it in our summer business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: Yep. And I'll think we see it in our summer business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keyblade Posted May 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2021 7 hours ago, CVByrne said: Second season we were relegated if it wasn't for Covid. So in a normal season he's lost his job and we're in the Championship. First season was great, we had the new manager bounce and we won a penalty shootout against West Brom and we were promoted then after winning the final. We had the bounce of staying up fresh in our step when we started this season well. A lot of ifs and hypothetical scenarios that didn't actually happen in there. We got promoted, we stayed up the next season, we finished comfortably midtable the next. Those are the cold hard facts. That's what you call progression. We're one of the only teams in the league who can say we are on a steady upward trajectory. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Ran out of likes but pleased to see many backing Dean, really displeased with the calls to sack him - it’s all over the place online too. Senseless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, osmark86 said: This assumes our players and coaching staff are complacent which I highly doubt and I'm not seeing it either. Sometimes frustration gets the best of you, but that's not complacency. I think lofty expectations (from a fan perspective) is more dangerous since this is basically a set up for bad atmosphere if not achieved. A complacent fan isn't shouting "SMITH OUT" and showing posters on match day. So the former is more likely to be detrimental (for good or bad) than the complacent fan. Just my two cents. you know what assume does, it maks an ass of u and me.......and it has here. complacency was merely mentioned as a covering eventuality to lofty expectaions, you have misread the context....they are subjective references. John Terry is anything but complacent, he has success as a player written in to his DNA, Dean Smith has gained us Promotion, too and Craig Shakespear's association with a successful Leicester, hardly includes him......no I wasn't referring to the Coaching Staff, it was what i said it was a generalisation...don't get too sensitive. and many things get the better of many of us, in this case Assumption has got the better of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Keyblade said: A lot of ifs and hypothetical scenarios that didn't actually happen in there. We got promoted, we stayed up the next season, we finished comfortably midtable the next. Those are the cold hard facts. That's what you call progression. We're one of the only teams in the league who can say we are on a steady upward trajectory. Can't Leeds say that, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, TRO said: Can't Leeds say that, too? They can. My mate that supports Leeds thinks they will finish top 4 next season. But then I bet Sheffield United fans expected another mid table finish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, TRO said: you know what assume does, it maks an ass of u and me.......and it has here. complacency was merely mentioned as a covering eventuality to lofty expectaions, you have misread the context....they are subjective references. John Terry is anything but complacent, he has success as a player written in to his DNA, Dean Smith has gained us Promotion, too and Craig Shakespear's association with a successful Leicester, hardly includes him......no I wasn't referring to the Coaching Staff, it was what i said it was a generalisation...don't get too sensitive. and many things get the better of many of us, in this case Assumption has got the better of you. I really wasn't being sensitive, just replying as a musing on your generalisation. Let's leave at that and not make a chicken out of a feather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 17, 2021 Moderator Share Posted May 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, TRO said: Can't Leeds say that, too? Leeds can say that after season 2. They've been stagnant for over a decade and got promoted thanks to recharging their batteries at the very time they usually lose their arses. They've done extremely well this season but they need to get past second season syndrome. I fully expect that they will do so, but until they do, they are not on a steady upward trajectory. They've had a good season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Just now, BOF said: Leeds can say that after season 2. They've been stagnant for over a decade and got promoted thanks to recharging their batteries at the very time they usually lose their arses. They've done extremely well this season but they need to get past second season syndrome. I fully expect that they will do so, but until they do, they are not on a steady upward trajectory. They've had a good season. for the sake of the argument and having no interest whatsover in the club.....I would say 2 good seasons and their patterns of high intensity are consistent....what they do well, has been done consistently. but yes, examples do need a wider window and I accept your observation...but I was just picking up on a point being made that only us can claim that trajectory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, osmark86 said: I really wasn't being sensitive, just replying as a musing on your generalisation. Let's leave at that and not make a chicken out of a feather. but you have. Practice what you preach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, TRO said: but you have. Practice what you preach. That never was my intention with the original reply and if you felt I attacked you in any way then I appologize. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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