villa89 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 47 minutes ago, Genie said: Its very likely that Greenwood had done what he was allegedly doing in the recording clip many times before to prompt his partner to sense it was about to happen and record it for evidence. Once is bad enough, but it must have been many times. Absolute vile scum. Didn't stop her getting engaged to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) 5 minutes ago, villa89 said: Didn't stop her getting engaged to him. Yep, proper **** up that is. I have a feeling she wouldn’t have done if he wasn’t a millionaire. Edited May 18 by Genie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, The_Steve said: Surely surely surely it makes sense to split it between the championship clubs instead. But then, this is what FFP will do to them. Instead of owners willing to take a hit to their income, they're forced to try and make as much as possible just to compete. FFP needs to do one if they want the PL to start helping the football pyramid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 27 minutes ago, MrBlack said: Surely surely surely it makes sense to split it between the championship clubs instead. But then, this is what FFP will do to them. Instead of owners willing to take a hit to their income, they're forced to try and make as much as possible just to compete. FFP needs to do one if they want the PL to start helping the football pyramid. The gap widens every year as the relegated teams can bank on the money and the other teams suffer who don’t get the promotion. If the league had any sense, they should just give the money to the teams not promoted. The prem teams absolutely don’t need it. The sooner we get a regulator in place to fix this greed the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted May 19 VT Supporter Share Posted May 19 The top flight teams want the gap to widen and championship teams to be a lot worse financially than they are. It helps to ensure that no matter how bad they are, the championship teams are worse and it greatly reduces the risk of relegation and missing out on TV money. Make the top flight a closed shop of about 26 teams, with a few rotating between relegation and promotion each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 7 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: The top flight teams want the gap to widen and championship teams to be a lot worse financially than they are. It helps to ensure that no matter how bad they are, the championship teams are worse and it greatly reduces the risk of relegation and missing out on TV money. Make the top flight a closed shop of about 26 teams, with a few rotating between relegation and promotion each year. That's what the PSR / FFP rules will always be voted through, teams aren't looking up at the big 6 thinking they'll never catch them, they're looking down at the other 72 teams thinking they'll never catch us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 9 hours ago, MrBlack said: Surely surely surely it makes sense to split it between the championship clubs instead. But then, this is what FFP will do to them. Instead of owners willing to take a hit to their income, they're forced to try and make as much as possible just to compete. FFP needs to do one if they want the PL to start helping the football pyramid. Wasn’t there a meeting or decision recently that more money would be trickled down to the lower leagues? As you say, the money should be split between the Championship clubs not the PL ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Just now, Genie said: Wasn’t there a meeting or decision recently that more money would be trickled down to the lower leagues? As you say, the money should be split between the Championship clubs not the PL ones. Should be split over all the EFL teams. It’d make a huge difference to some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 3 hours ago, Rds1983 said: The top flight teams want the gap to widen and championship teams to be a lot worse financially than they are. It helps to ensure that no matter how bad they are, the championship teams are worse and it greatly reduces the risk of relegation and missing out on TV money. Make the top flight a closed shop of about 26 teams, with a few rotating between relegation and promotion each year. It’s a de-facto English super league in all but name. You can see why some teams come up and just take the money. It’s anti-competition. It gets harder and harder to be competitive as a promoted team which huge transfer spends that are total risk/reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 17 minutes ago, The_Steve said: It’s a de-facto English super league in all but name. You can see why some teams come up and just take the money. It’s anti-competition. It gets harder and harder to be competitive as a promoted team which huge transfer spends that are total risk/reward. I find your views so conflicting sometimes Like, this seems like you’re very much against the anti-competition seen in the Premier League, but with Forest spending too much (which was basically a catch up between what an “established” Premier League club could spend versus a promoted team with no parachute payments) your view was that they weren’t punished enough! Which way should it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 On 19/05/2024 at 10:05, bobzy said: I find your views so conflicting sometimes Like, this seems like you’re very much against the anti-competition seen in the Premier League, but with Forest spending too much (which was basically a catch up between what an “established” Premier League club could spend versus a promoted team with no parachute payments) your view was that they weren’t punished enough! Which way should it be? TBF you can reconcile those opinions fairly easily by thinking that the rules Forest were punished under were bad, but also that the rules are the rules and while they're in place Forest should have obeyed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 14 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: TBF you can reconcile those opinions fairly easily by thinking that the rules Forest were punished under were bad, but also that the rules are the rules and while they're in place Forest should have obeyed them. But that they weren’t punished enough? The rules are in place, the punishment was given… and it should’ve been even harsher? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 4 minutes ago, bobzy said: But that they weren’t punished enough? The rules are in place, the punishment was given… and it should’ve been even harsher? Yeah, fair, that part is hard to square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Now small heath have gone down I agree split it with championship 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 On 19/05/2024 at 10:05, bobzy said: I find your views so conflicting sometimes Like, this seems like you’re very much against the anti-competition seen in the Premier League, but with Forest spending too much (which was basically a catch up between what an “established” Premier League club could spend versus a promoted team with no parachute payments) your view was that they weren’t punished enough! Which way should it be? Bad rules which Forest knew to be in breach of and carried on recklessly spending. Signing 40+ players and holding off on selling names was always going to catch up with them. I’m not a fan of the current setup, but Forest did far more than us in trying to rebuild for the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Premier League awarding the manager of the year to a drug cheat again Shameful 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 McKenna sacking off Ipswich at first chance by the looks of it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AA_786 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/22/sport/inter-milan-taken-over-oaktree-spt-intl/index.html Inter Milan fresh from winning Serie A, have a new majority owner. Not by takeover but from the previous owner not paying a debt with the club up as collateral. May still go to court but based on my understanding of financing agreements, Oaktree were under no obligation to renegotiate the terms and are within their rights to seize control as per their agreement. Flagging as the number of clubs who have utilised private equity firms to plug gaps in their accounts (e.g, Everton), this case may be one that is repeated again in the next few years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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