PaulC Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Yes but at least they should give it a go. They were going to loose anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Norn Iron were obviously playing to nick it 1-0 from a set piece. It's what they do every game unless they're playing a minnow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) ROI will be better. If only Northern Ireland had a George Best Edited November 10, 2017 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 was there last night. Alliances and bias aside, the ref was horrendous all game. Lafferty couldnt breathe on a player without conceding a free kick and the tackle at the start of the game on Dallas took him out of the game and could/ should have been a red. We were beside the swiss fans and when the ref blew for the penalty there was not a soul in the stadium who thought a penalty was being given - cue much confusion amongst both sets of fans. I agree that Northern Ireland were extremely negative and showed the Swiss too much respect. O'Neill was undoubtably going for an anything - nil scoreline but that it his perogative as a manager and to have that taken away from you from what is one of the worse decisions I've ever seen is a bit sickening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 10, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 10, 2017 14 hours ago, VillaChris said: No way in a match of this significance a ref will send a player off after five minutes. When does the free pass expire? Get your hatchet jobs in before half an hour? I'm being slightly facetious but only because I f**king hate how refs take that kinda shit into account. It's a red in the 1st or the 61st. Do your job. Unless of course his job was to get one of FIFA's darlings into the world cup in which case well done. 13 hours ago, PaulC said: yes dodgy pen but NI deserved nothing as they were intent on sitting back and hoping for the best. Swiss dominated the game and should have won by more "Deserved nothing". Presumably they deserved at least a fair crack of the whip, no? The logic that you deserved to lose on a dodgy penalty because you lacked ambition is just wrong. If the opposition can't beat you fair and square then that's their problem not yours. Luckily Switzerland didn't need fair and square. "Should have won by more" is also a curious phrase. I assume they didn't win by more because they couldn't get past a backline and goalkeeper. Those crafty Nordies. But yes I imagine the Swiss will now get through using 11 men in Switzerland. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 I mean Switzerland deserved the win but that was one of the worst refereeing performances I have seen. That non penalty was almost as bad as ours against City a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) Yes the penalty was wrong and its not really about the way Switzerland played but more the way NI just tried to park the bus and hope to get a goal from a free kick or corner. That is why they deserved nothing. Yes they are the weaker side but football should not reward teams that play that way. Edited November 10, 2017 by PaulC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 9 hours ago, BOF said: When does the free pass expire? Get your hatchet jobs in before half an hour? I'm being slightly facetious but only because I f**king hate how refs take that kinda shit into account. It's a red in the 1st or the 61st. Do your job. Unless of course his job was to get one of FIFA's darlings into the world cup in which case well done. "Deserved nothing". Presumably they deserved at least a fair crack of the whip, no? The logic that you deserved to lose on a dodgy penalty because you lacked ambition is just wrong. If the opposition can't beat you fair and square then that's their problem not yours. Luckily Switzerland didn't need fair and square. "Should have won by more" is also a curious phrase. I assume they didn't win by more because they couldn't get past a backline and goalkeeper. Those crafty Nordies. But yes I imagine the Swiss will now get through using 11 men in Switzerland. It's just the way things are BOF as we saw in Carling cup final in 2010. It's always easier to give a player a yellow in that situation than effectively make them play the whole game with 10 men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted November 10, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2017 Sweden beating Italy 1 - 0 at home in the first leg of the play off. Goal was a bit fortunate, bouncing between the legs of 2 Italian players and wrong footing Buffon. Holding on by the skin of their teeth during the last 10. Half the Swedish team had cramp at the end. All to play for in the return leg. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Italy are so uninspiring. Appointing Ventura was a proper heads gone moment. Just hope Sweden don't park the bus on Monday. They scored in France so someone like Forsberg could nick a goal on the break as Italy push forward. Verrati is suspended btw. It's in the San Siro so expect the ref to give Italy a freebie or two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Excellent away result 0-0 for Australia against Honduras. Should have come away with an away goal or two but should seriously have the beating of Honduras at home based on that effort. Jedinak was very good. Hopefully he can sit out the return leg. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Find it stupid Fifa make teams fly halfway across the world within 5 days. Australia should just play New Zealand and Honduras play Peru. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, VillaChris said: Find it stupid Fifa make teams fly halfway across the world within 5 days. Australia should just play New Zealand and Honduras play Peru. I agree. That makes sense, would provide qualifying with more balance, and the games would have more of an edge to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, Ponky said: Excellent away result 0-0 for Australia against Honduras. Should have come away with an away goal or two but should seriously have the beating of Honduras at home based on that effort. Jedinak was very good. Hopefully he can sit out the return leg. Jed doing his Gandalf thing again. " You.. shall not... pass!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 11, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 11, 2017 5 hours ago, VillaChris said: It's just the way things are BOF as we saw in Carling cup final in 2010. It's always easier to give a player a yellow in that situation than effectively make them play the whole game with 10 men. I know. But it is not right and I'm done pretending it's acceptable. It's like oh that's how it is. **** off (not you :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 4 hours ago, AJ said: Jed doing his Gandalf thing again. " You.. shall not... pass!" Thats the kodjia thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 6 hours ago, VillaChris said: Italy are so uninspiring. Appointing Ventura was a proper heads gone moment. Just hope Sweden don't park the bus on Monday. They scored in France so someone like Forsberg could nick a goal on the break as Italy push forward. Verrati is suspended btw. It's in the San Siro so expect the ref to give Italy a freebie or two... Doesnt matter where its played i expect the ref to make italy qualify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 14 hours ago, VillaChris said: Italy are so uninspiring. Appointing Ventura was a proper heads gone moment. Just hope Sweden don't park the bus on Monday. They scored in France so someone like Forsberg could nick a goal on the break as Italy push forward. Verrati is suspended btw. It's in the San Siro so expect the ref to give Italy a freebie or two... The Ventura appointment really is baffling. His managerial stats are mediocre at best. Granted he's mostly been at small clubs, but still. He's done nothing to warrant the Italy gig. His Italy still should see off Sweden, but I would not be surprised if he's replaced before the WC even if they go through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Capello would have been a better choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 2 hours ago, sne said: The Ventura appointment really is baffling. His managerial stats are mediocre at best. Granted he's mostly been at small clubs, but still. He's done nothing to warrant the Italy gig. His Italy still should see off Sweden, but I would not be surprised if he's replaced before the WC even if they go through. Now, now let's be a little bit optimistic. If we can nick one goal on monday I think we have a great chance of pulling through since it's tough to score against us. Let's deny them the WC for once! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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