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1 minute ago, mykeyb said:

Election days are a bit like watching the FA Cup Final a couple of weeks ago, I dont like either side and dont support either by choice but to make it interesting I will pick the side I like least to support.

What the actual **** :crylaugh: 

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Just now, tonyh29 said:

I wasn't making that case at all

 

I'm not a keen Tory .. I'm just not keen on Labour , Greens , Lib Dems , UKIP , SNP , the welsh one that I can't spell  etc :) 

OK - but I take it you vote Tory.

 

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5 minutes ago, Risso said:

Is there any evidence Murdoch ever said that?

I remember reading it so it absolutely implies a personal experience of him saying it

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Are people honestly expecting a set of policies from a party that they agree with close on 100% ? 

Surley you look at the broad thrust of the policies and make your decision on that ?

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1 hour ago, darrenm said:

I see massive amounts of spending that has to and has every chance of stimulating the economy. If it doesn't we're all **** because Tory austerity has done this to the national debt

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I see their values as very modern because Keynesian based socialism is very progressive. I see Tory austerity and cutting back as very short-sighted and illogical

So Labour lost in May 2010, looking at the graph above it doubled under Labour if you look at the lowest point under their leadership. The increase in 2010 was about as fast as anywhere else on the graph, this is why I cannot vote Labour at this election.

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Just now, hippo said:

OK - but I take it you vote Tory.

 

I voted for them once , first year I was allowed to vote (92)  and I voted Lib Dem once , think it was probably 97 and Blair's landslide year ... rest of the time I've not voted .. probably won't vote today either as per my grudge with Hammond ...

council elections I don't really recall voting in , I could well have done .. only one I recall was the year an old school friend of mine stood for UKIP and I did go and vote for him out of friendship (for shame)

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Just now, mykeyb said:

So Labour lost in May 2010, looking at the graph above it doubled under Labour if you look at the lowest point under their leadership. The increase in 2010 was about as fast as anywhere else on the graph, this is why I cannot vote Labour at this election.

Global Financial Crisis? 2008 to 2010 was a write-off. It was all hands to the pump to stop everything collapsing.

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1 minute ago, darrenm said:

Global Financial Crisis? 2008 to 2010 was a write-off. It was all hands to the pump to stop everything collapsing.

Yes your right, hang on Jeremy I have changed my mind...................

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7 minutes ago, mykeyb said:

So Labour lost in May 2010, looking at the graph above it doubled under Labour if you look at the lowest point under their leadership. The increase in 2010 was about as fast as anywhere else on the graph, this is why I cannot vote Labour at this election.

There doesn't look like an awful lot in it to be honest the 2015 rise looks pretty steep to me. 

Any slowing of the increase doesn't make the destruction of the NHS and public services worthwhile in my opinion.

I think there is a lot of scaremongering a debt - but its pretty normal for a country to run a deficit - I think we only recently cleared the ww2 debt. This is where I take my hat off to george osborne he had people on £15k  worrying the uk credit rating. That man I rate as a politician.

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2 minutes ago, mykeyb said:

Yes your right, hang on Jeremy I have changed my mind...................

But in fairness, while you don't have to necessarily change your mind, you have to at least take that debt hike into context.  It was a global thing, not a UK thing and using it as an actual reason to avoid any party would be fallacious.

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Whatever happened to the 1990-1992 recession - it never gets a mention. People talk about 1981 and 2008 global crisis - but 1992 recession (which in my opinion was the worst of the 3) never gets mention.  

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11 minutes ago, BOF said:

But in fairness, while you don't have to necessarily change your mind, you have to at least take that debt hike into context.  It was a global thing, not a UK thing and using it as an actual reason to avoid any party would be fallacious.

You are right, I had forgotten (erased from memory) the global crisis.

With the levels they are at now I dont see how Labour can spend their way out of it.

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49 minutes ago, Risso said:

Is there any evidence Murdoch ever said that?

Widely reported as fact but Murdoch says he never said it and he seems like a trustworthy sort so I'm sure he's telling the truth.

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