Russia and its “Special Operation” in Ukraine

[foreveryoung]

More hardware coming Ukraines way.

 

[Talldarkandransome]

6 minutes ago, PieFacE said:

 

The type of thing you'd see on an episode of South Park

 

Or the script for Team America 2

[sne]

15 minutes ago, PieFacE said:

 

The type of thing you'd see on an episode of South Park

 

Time to send in Frank Drebin

 

[Cizzler]

17 minutes ago, TheAuthority said:

Ukraine will end up split, either with a demilitarized zone separating the "independent states" from the rest of Ukraine, or even with a wall ala Germany after WWII.

I expect this was Putin’s goal all along. He can’t have expected to subjugate the entirety of a country that big. 

Putin will get the huge natural gas reserves in the East of the country and control the access to the Black Sea in the South. He’ll also have the “buffer” between the NATO states.

I think he underestimated the West’s co-ordinated response/ sanctions and under-estimated Zelenskyy too.

I imagine we’ll get a ceasefire relatively shortly (hopefully), fingers crossed it doesn’t take the Russians shelling the shit out of Kharkiv and Kiev (but I’m worried it might).

The Western sanctions will probably end there. European energy strategy and Ukraine’s borders will change, and little else.

[hippo]

Isn't the issue - that you have NATO countries - then you have Russian countries and countries it controls.

But you also have countries whose are neither in NATO - nor are they Russian. Everytime one of those countries falls to Russia the west gets jumpy -conversley every time one of those countries makes overtures about joining NATO or even the EU Russia gets jumpy ?

[hippo]

2 minutes ago, Cizzler said:

I expect this was Putin’s goal all along. He can’t have expected to subjugate the entirety of a country that big. 

Putin will get the huge natural gas reserves in the East of the country and control the access to the Black Sea in the South. He’ll also have the “buffer” between the NATO states.

I think he underestimated the West’s co-ordinated response/ sanctions and under-estimated Zelenskyy too.

I imagine we’ll get a ceasefire relatively shortly (hopefully), fingers crossed it doesn’t take the Russians shelling the shit out of Kharkiv and Kiev (but I’m worried it might).

The Western sanctions will probably end there. European energy strategy and Ukraine’s borders will change, and little else.

The nightmare scenario - is that a state of war remains with the current split into two - but no ceasefire.

Russia will take a breather - the west arms Ukraine to the hilt .......an uneasy and very high stakes truce.......whilst the world's holds its breath.

 

[bannedfromHandV]

RT is being switched off and taken down from Sky as the French satellite that facilitates the broadcasting is shut down.

Spare a thought for Nigel Farage who will now have to find something else to watch.

[maqroll]

India is going to have to make a monumental decision sooner or later.

[Genie]

Just now, maqroll said:

India is going to have to make a monumental decision sooner or later.

They would be mad to side with Russia. 

[AJ]

5 hours ago, romavillan said:

Well one thing about the ethinicity chat is that Stalin did a whole lot of **** on that score. He ethnically cleansed Crimea in 1946, and other places before and after. The idea that Crimea is "Russian" ignores the fact that the indigenous people all got taken to Siberia and put in camps or were made to make the road of bones and other such fun stuff.

Same with loads of these places that get touted as having x% russian speaking populations. It's happened inside the last 80 years and it was done by force. 

Also, Holodomor was unforgiveable. 

[Awol]

3 minutes ago, maqroll said:

India is going to have to make a monumental decision sooner or later.

It’s not Russia who is working to help them balance against Chinese aggression. 

[Awol]

Putin’s ISIS have been busy.  

 

 

[The Fun Factory]

6 minutes ago, Genie said:

They would be mad to side with Russia. 

Russia basically make all of their military equipment and they are quite jumpy what with Pakistan and China bordering them.

[bannedfromHandV]

36 minutes ago, PieFacE said:

 

The type of thing you'd see on an episode of South Park

 

Not gonna happen.

The UAE have spent the last two decades trying to attract westerners.

China didn’t back Russia recently when they had the chance to do so.

Saudi Arabia are entirely tied up financially with the west.

India is a bizarre one, Pakistan maybe but even that’s massively doubtful.

That leaves Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan and Ethiopia (of those listed). The west will be quaking in their boots.

[Awol]

4 minutes ago, AJ said:

Also, Holodomor was unforgiveable. 

Stalin killed as many Ukrainians as Hitler killed Jews. Then Hitler killed more Ukrainians fir good measure. Shouldn’t surprise anyone these people aren’t rolling over given their cultural memory. 

[tonyh29]

Did Lukashenko really go on TV in Belarus and show the Russian invasion plan on a map !!

[sidcow]

23 minutes ago, Cizzler said:

I expect this was Putin’s goal all along. He can’t have expected to subjugate the entirety of a country that big. 

Putin will get the huge natural gas reserves in the East of the country and control the access to the Black Sea in the South. He’ll also have the “buffer” between the NATO states.

I think he underestimated the West’s co-ordinated response/ sanctions and under-estimated Zelenskyy too.

I imagine we’ll get a ceasefire relatively shortly (hopefully), fingers crossed it doesn’t take the Russians shelling the shit out of Kharkiv and Kiev (but I’m worried it might).

The Western sanctions will probably end there. European energy strategy and Ukraine’s borders will change, and little else.

Take his **** Gas. Let the world go big on heat pumps, solar panels and wind turbines.  He's called armageddon over Betamax the fcuwit.

[bannedfromHandV]

1 minute ago, tonyh29 said:

Did Lukashenko really go on TV in Belarus and show the Russian invasion plan on a map !!

He seems dumb enough to do so, so yeah, I’d say he did.

[foreveryoung]

Be interesting to see if the Cyber crew anonymous drain the Russian banks tomorrow as promised.

[Zatman]

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Vitaliy Mykolenko has lashed out at the perceived silence of Russian footballers in the wake of the invasion of Ukraine.

The Everton defender claimed that Russia's captain Artem Dzyuba will be "locked away in a dungeon" for the rest of his life.

Russia were this week expelled from the upcoming World Cup playoffs, as FIFA belatedly responded to the invasion.

The EU have also seized assets of oligarchs with links to Russian president Vladimir Putin, including prominent Everton sponsor Alisher Usmanov.

But after sharing videos of a Russian attack on Kharkiv, Mykolenko issued a strongly-worded message for Russia's footballers who have failed to speak out against Putin.

"Whilst you remain silent bastards, along with your shithead football team-mates, peaceful civilians are being killed in Ukraine," wrote the former Dynamo Kiev player in his native language.

"You will be locked in your dungeon for the rest of your life and most importantly the lives of your kids. And I'm glad."

Mykolenko also shared a video, in which he and a number of fellow Ukrainian footballers urged the footballing world to help stop the invasion of their homeland.

 

https://www.otbsports.com/sport/evertons-mykolenko-blasts-silent-russian-footballers-following-invasion-1317163?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR08fpTbNCnM_2ehfKGzeOjjTV1ggy2_pcYB7WlnpeoVEGYNsPQ6NL3cHoQ#Echobox=1646157755-2

I do think a lot of the Russian athletes are in a tough spot especially for family members back home, e.g. Artemi Panarin from New York Rangers who has been critical of Putin and supports Navalny is wanted in Russia for allegedly assaulting a teenager